Rose Poivree The Different Company for women and men

Cumin! ❤️

amazing. one of the best from the house.

just fyi re: the name:

(english) peppered rose = (french) rose poivree' -- since it's LA rose, poivree' comes with double ee to denote the feminine grammatical gender in the following adjective. hence: (la) rose poivree'.

(english) pink pepper = (french) poivre rose' -- since it's LE poivre, rose' comes with only 1 e to denote the masculine grammatical gender in the following adjective. hence (le) poivre rose'.

but on the the scent: can anyone tell me if this vintage formulation has cumin -- and if not, is it the new formulation that has it? it's what i want, lots of cumin :-)

It's not too animalic or hard to wear but it is definitely spicy. As if there's a dash of caraway or cumin in here. The rose isn't sweet but more juicy, almost metallic actually. The spices are the main player here. Pepper, civet, rose. Easily unisex. Can't see how this one is feminine with all the spices present. A nice spicy rose fragrance which at least smells different enough from other common rose based scents. Perfomance is average. Not my favorite Ellena but worth sampling if you enjoy your rose to be on the dirty side.

7/10

am i the only one smells melon+rose here?

A different rose scent, indeed.
I am on the fence whether I like it or not...
I find it so masculine! Well, not a classic rose, but with a distinct personality.
The pepper is strong in it, making it deep. The spices (coriander, juniper) and the woods - I can smell pine, perhaps cedar to a lesser extent - make it ideal for who likes masculine or wood based fragrances... with a hint of animalic notes.
It reminds me very much of "Voleur de Roses" with its musty earthy wince cellar drydown
Not a powdery or feminine rose at all!
Interesting one ... has sillage but very low staying power.... Not FB worth!

The more I am learning perfumes, the more I am impressed by influence of names and color on the perception of the perfume notes.

As the review below says, the name of the perfume is "Pink Pepper", nothing to do with the rose. Yes rose is present, but if one is trying to find the rose as if it was a "Rose & Pepper" perfume, such person may fail.

Otherwise I find that this perfume is more like pink pepper, white musc rose. It is typical Jean Claude Ellena creation: subtle, polite, like water color painting. Longevity and projection could be better. It reminds me Max Mara Le Parfum, but 10 times quieter.

My kind of rose, old, dried rose from the old cabinet in the old English house. Spices, curry, bitter flower, smell develops and changes but through all the ride there is always real, slightly dried bucket of roses.

I would love to buy a bottle with some juice in it :)

Fascinating scent. I am not a rose person, yet here I smell a bold pungent herbal rose that I actually find quite sexy. The pink pepper hangs around even after hours. No sign of civet to be found. The flowery softness that shines through makes it a chic feminine elegant scent I definitely approve of. I don't think I will ever wear it though because of the explicit feminine accent and because I prefer raging scents, those that hit you, accompany you, almost whether you like it or not, shake you, move you, balancing at the limits of indecency.

Some times I get bored with my seasonal lineup and go back through samples I’ve purchased (of which I have many, many) and Rose Poivree was one I unearthed a couple days ago. I most definitely got the sample within the last two years but I don’t think I ever tried it!

Here’s my take! From all the reviews I’ve read now, it seems Rose Poivree has been reformulated a few times. On Katie Puckrik’s review the CEO of Different Company materializes out of the internet mist to claim there haven’t been any reformulations, that there are no stabilizers and the perfume blend grows darker in coloration and more animalic with time. I feel like that’s not true because I don’t get any civet at all, not even civetone. I had some vintage Versace blonde, and that most certainly had civet. I currently own a bottle of Marlou’s L’animal sauvage and the civetone is inescapable. There just isn’t any in Rose Poivree. There IS cumin though, and that’s not listed as an ingredient.

The cumin comes on directly out of gate, but fades quickly into the mix. My husband says that cumin smells like NYC cab driver, but I have forged onward trying to find a perfume with cumin that would garner his approval. I think I have found this perfume in Rose Poivree or at least I hope I have because I totally bought a big bottle without asking his opinion.

Other reviews have mentioned that RP is a vegetal composition, smelling like the rose bush and not just the rosebud. I concur. Some say it’s like celery others says tomato (even tomato juice). I get vegetal but I don’t get celery or tomato juice, not even tomato leaf. I think the veg smell comes from vetiver, and the particular tone it takes might be due to the black pepper.

One of the reviews on basenotes mentions a chamomile note, others say bay leaf. I get this mysterious bay leaf & chamomile! On bois de jasmin’s review, rose bay is listed as note. I looked it up and rose bay willow herb is otherwise known as fireweed. I don’t know what it smells like and I didn’t find any descriptions of its scent profile. Could it be the source of this chamomile & bay leaf?

The rose in RP is very dry, and when I first wore it all day I wondered after a few hours of maybe it was too dry and spicy and therefore too masculine. The spices seemed to completely obscure the rose. I took the sweater I was wearing off, and then smelled it a couple hours later and I’ll be damned if it wasn’t rosy as hell. I think for the some of the wearers, nose fatigue makes it seem as though the rose isn’t there but it most definitely is. The more I wear it, the more I wonder how I could’ve stopped smelling the rose.

Another reviewer here says RP smells exactly like Rossy de Palma’s Eau de Protection. I have two bottles of EdP, and I disagree. They don’t smell the same, but the approach is similar. Both feature prominent rose, both have spicy notes (though not exactly the same) and both have an earthy vegetal contrast: EdP with patchouli and RP with vetiver. However they aren’t the same. EdP has a marked rosy sweetness, and incense as well. Personality wise, EdP is a more gentle and relaxed bright red rose. If EdP hurt you, it’s because she broke your heart. RP on the other hand, is a dark red rose and not to be crossed. Honestly, I’m more of the RP sort.

Update: I initially got no civet from this at all, but recently I noticed a *slight* dirty underwear tinge and realized the civet was finally distinguishable.

Update2: I now have two 3 oz bottles and seven 1.7 oz bottles. This is my new signature. I prefer it in slightly warmer weather when the cumin and vetiver are more noticeable.

It smells the most realistic rose to me, and that includes the flower together with its leaves, branches and roots. It's my top 5 favourite fragrance of all time. The longevity is slightly above average on my skin but the smell is just so divine, nothing else out there is like this.

This is a soft spicy rose scent, slightly sour with a tiny & faint BO vibe, suitable for warm weather. All I get is a combo of tamed rose, pepper, coriander and some vetiver. Totally unisex. The performance is moderate overall. Btw this is not for rose lovers. Too much spices and limited longevity.

I did once accidentally spray a bit much and regretted it, so one to be careful with.
I love it so much. Deep, spicy, pungent rose. It has a sharpness to it that I really enjoy- like a rose version of white indoles, it is very interesting, I think it is the civet. Definitely not a light grandma rose, more like a dangerous, sexy rose. I remember at some time in my life smelling real stemmed roses that smelled deeply of pepper naturally and this reminds me of it. It is an unusual perfume and I can't stop smelling myself.
I really want to try Aurore Nomade.

4/10

Very fascinating scent....spicy enough to make me sneeze during the first 5 minutes, then turns into a slightly bad case of body odor after 30 minutes on me. I tolerated that and it finally turned into a pretty musky rose. It was all over the place on my skin!

It's obvious to me that Rose Poivree is not "rose" as in the flower but "rose" as in the French word for pink.
Pink pepper and lots of it. Also black pepper and coriander. With a handful of civet notes thrown in for good animalistic measure. I don't smell rose in this at all, anywhere. My nose spots absolutely zero floral in this. It's all spice. Sharp. Hot. Bossy. I feel like this might work better on a man than on me.

Grabbed this 1.7 oz for just 20 bucks at my local store.. The first spray is okay.. Bitter rose, but after waiting 1 hour the scent developed into animalic spicy. Which i couldnt stand anymore, immediately washed my hand. Didn't have the courage to apply this in my workplace. I'm afraid i might be offend somebody there.
Get a chance for yourself to sampling this first on your own skin. Do not blind buy.

Rate :
Scent 4
Projection 6
Sillage 7

Death of the Virgin by Caravaggio 1604
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The House of the Sleeping Beauties by Yasunari Kawabata

probably if a guy would 1) apply lots of rose perfume; 2) go to the gym and get a proper workout; 3) forget his sweaty-rosy gym clothes in a plastic bac for a couple of days.. probably after that his clothes would smell like Rose Poivree smells on me :( sorry I'm getting some terrible note, probably my skin chemistry.. recommend not to buy without trying on skin...

I get sweaty melon... interesting...but enjoyable

Unfortunately, all I get is cumin at the beginning then it blooms into a fresh and sweaty rose. This is potent stuff, use sparingly.

I don't think I like it, but it might smell differently in the dead of winter.

Scent - rose, pepper, coriander & vetiver.

Season/Time of Day - I prefer to use this one in the colder months, day or night.

Projection - I didn't get noticed, I didn't get a compliment.

Longevity - I get 6hrs consistently.

I've got an official 10 ml spray bottle and sprayed once to the upper chest, and I had my shirt open. I smelled nothing! My sensitivity is low recently but I smelled Oriental Lounge without any problem. Go figure.

This is my first trial of The Different Company, and Rose Poivree had a decent amount of hype as a unisex rose option, so I'm slightly disappointed but this fragrance is still a relatively versatile, agreeable four-season unisex rose option. It leans to the fresh as opposed to heavy.

Coriander, pepper, and vetiver are all listed in the notes breakdown, and I get some manner of each. It's not especially spicy but slightly herby---the vetiver is the most prominent of the three. Rose Poivree is mainly a fresh rose, though, and not especially unique or special, at that. Projection and longevity are decent, but not for the price of $235 for 90ml. Not one I'll be buying, and I can't say I'd recommend it for the price.

6 out of 10

I'm just coming around to sampling this fragrance and more so out of curiosity as I enjoy a good polarizing scent.

This opens with a fresh, fairly sheer, slightly fruity-melon-y rose which smells wet. Soon it is joined by the spices, pepper and a touch of cumin being the most prominent. It is here that I can understand the perfumes reputation for its animalic quality. Although it's not something I haven't come across before in other perfumes which feature pepper, cumin, and sweat cedar (think modern Femme EDT, Amouage Jubilation xxv, Si Lolita, FM Une Fleur de Cassie ).
The sheer rosy/fruity opening reminds me of another Elena fragrance: Hermes' Un Jardin Apres la Mousson which has a fresh watermelon joined by spices in its opening. The rose in RP has that watermelon/aquatic vibe going on for me.
The spices intensify briefly and as the perfume starts to settle the rose becomes sweeter, almost honeyed before it fades. I find the whole evolution very compelling and found myself sniffing my arm frequently.
So overall, I really like it enough to order a small decant to see how spraying effects my experience. But I'm underwhelmed after reading so much about how "skanky" and inappropriate smelling this fragrance is.
I also believe that Americans, Westerners are obsessed with erasing all traces of the body's natural odor so any allusion or reminders are apt to repel and horrify. I think the French may be more relaxed about that and this perfume just seems "very French" as opposed to "very raunchy"
Also, I can only speak to the current version, not earlier ones which may have contained real civet. Although the TDC CEO commented on a blog that the formula hasn't changed except for maybe the availability of rose absolute used. What else is he going to say? Shrug.

before the reformulation: rose, spicies, civet and pheromones
after: rose, pink pepper and cumin

I never understand the idea that the animalic note of civet could be replaced by the cumin

ugh - glad I sampled this first. This is NOT one to blind buy. To me it came off as extremely masculine, dark green peppery vegetables. Can barely smell any rose, just greens, very intense pepper and tomatoes. It is natural smelling though, and strong. I think this may just not be my kind of perfume (I prefer sweeter scents).

Faint rose and musk. Hopefully this develops a little more. I'm three hours in and it is pretty boring. I was hoping for the green and peppery scent others have experienced.

A bitter opening; herbal, green, underscoring a true, complete rose. Then, the pepper - lots of black pepper. That note lasts a fair length of time. The dry-down is an earthy rose.
Tried this sample again; still the very green opening, but the pepper was not strong, the rose was deep and earthy, and I found it much more to my liking. Strong, but light and ethereal, like so many of JC Ellena's work.

I mostly smell rose and vetiver. This isn't very animalic on me (but I love animalics, so perhaps my tolerance is higher than some). When I first tried this, I got a blast of what smelled like patchouli and then almost overwhelming coriander for the first hour. I thought I was one this perfume wouldn't work on, and wondered what all of the fuss was about.

After a couple of hours though, the rose came out, and it was exactly what I hoped it would be; real rose, not perfume rose. This has a kind of mossy, dewy quality that I love, and the coriander isn't nearly as strong when I'm not sticking my nose against my bare arm every 30 minutes to see what I smell--in fact, it's quite pleasant.

Sadly, I don't seem to get pepper at any stage, but I love this anyway.

Pepper, Pepper, Pepper, rose and sweat. Unfortunately, this is all I get from Rose poivrée. I love dark spicy rose fragrances but this one is very spicy/sweaty and nothing more. Was expecting so much better!

When tested in the summertime, all I could detect was pepper, so much pepper that made me sneeze. And a hint of rose. I was disappointed.
Gave it a try now that the temp is around 0C and what a difference it makes. There is this velvety dark rose, lots of rose petals in fact. Smooth, silky and oriental spices that make it all more interesting. Wow! Lasts all day.

Oh, this smells like sin!
The scent is unmistakeably warm and organic, I liken it to a nude womans' body glistening with sweat being warmed by the sun, she is lying on a bed of rose petals. Perhaps she has been ravished, a scent is emanating from her sex. It doesn't get any more seductive than that!

There is heavy pepper in Rose Poivree too, it is in the beginning with fresh citrus. It begins to change up a little bit as the rose comes through blending with the black and pink pepper. The Damascus rose is so captivating, earthy with green notes and is supported by the animalic civet, cumin, vetiver, and coriander.

I love rose perfumes, Rose Poivree is an incomparable and sensual take on roses with a dirty side!
This will smell very appealing on a man too!

My review is based on a decant, both longevity and sillage are both good on my skin!

This is not a fragrance for women IMO. Yes, it has rose in it. However,huge load of civet and spices makes it good for men too. I love it, because it's simply a spicy rose on my skin. Besides, it's the most beautiful smell of rose petals I've ever smelled in perfume.

Longevity is 8 hours and sillage is moderate.

Perfect for spring. 10/10.

I think there are at least two different batches, differ from each other from the rose absolues involved.
The later batch I have (encoded from 73)(imho) is consisted of more distinctive and more rose absolue(or modified raw material) which contribute more sharp floral aldehyde facet and more creamy sweat ester facet. The projection is better yet the characteristic is more feminine.

When you first apply this scent to your skin you get a quick snapshot of what's in store. You can smell a lovely pink rose, strong pepper, a hint of musky civet and a dose of cumin.

Then just after this opening you get the strong dose of Indian spices vying for domination on your skin. Strong peppers and lots of cumin. A vetiver note also joins the party giving the scent a spicy earthy feel.

Now once this settles you have a very nice though challenging blend of rose and Indian spices with a slight muskyness from the civet in the background.

This scent is done very well and I do like it. Though it is a challenging fragrance and one best suited for the experienced nose. Or those that like to be challenged by their scents.

To sum up a lovely but challenging blend of pink roses and Indian spices with a dose of muskiness in the background.

Rose and Pepper. Hard to describe why I chose this scent to sample, as TDC is not available in the UK. I love rose but not too fond of pepper in scents.

After three seconds, I was transfixed! This is by no means a pepper mill, but a spiced-up rose scent, perfectly balanced and very masterfully put together. Another Ellena family masterpiece that deserves a bit more praise.

Probably more feminine to my nose than masculine, I could definitely see some men pulling it off. Progression was great and it really lasted on my skin.

Would I see this as a good rose scent? Frankly, no. It's a rose and pepper scent, so taking it for that I would be quite pleased with it.

This one is totally different with SL's LFB.
LFB is sweet, musky, heavy, feminine.
RP is minimalistic, vetiver, light, epicene.

I am always interested in new and unusual scents especially when it comes to my favorite queen of the flowers, the rose. In Rose Poivre, the rose is mixed with the vegetable cocktail and sprinkled with spices. Unfortunately, this is not a match made in heaven. The combination is awkward and unpleasant.

The scent opens with a gentle scent of a rose mixed with strong vegetable, and, in particular, tomato juices. The spices are a central part of this scent – pepper, coriander, and I also smell cumin with its distinct strong savory side. The quality of the scent is nice. The scent smells natural and gentle. And if smelled vegetable side of this scent on its own, I would probably like it. But this cumin – rose – tomato combo is just not something that mix well together.

I wore my sample multiple times trying to acquire taste for this composition. But definitely not my thing. I’ll give it 6/10 – mostly for the unique and original composition…

تخيل نفسك في وسط حديقة محاطه بالورد (الروز) وأنت هائم بما تفكر!! وأغصان الشجر تتراقص بهدوء مع حركة الهواء واذا بنسمات الهواء اللطيفه تتسلل بخفة إليك حاملة معها رائحة ماحولك من رائحة خضرة أوراق الشجر الباردة الممزوجة برائحة الورد.
هذا ما شعرت به في رحلتي مع عبير هذا العطر (ترجمة للطبيعة الخضراء)
Rose Poivree من The Different Company
هو مخصص للنساء ولكن أجده مناسباً ايضا للرجال، نوتة الروز ليست حادة وإنما حالمة، مزجت بعناية مع الكزبرة والتوابل ممثلة بالفلفل الوردي والأسود مما جعل عبير العطر أقرب مايكون إلى رائحة باقة الوورد هذا الإحساس كان الباعث له هو تواجد الكزبره التي أعطت شخصية الورد الطابع الأخضر الطبيعي فالكزبرة هي سيدة الموقف وفي نفس الوقت رائحتها ستمنحك الشعور بالراحه والاسترخاء
هذا هو الجو العام للعطر رائحة ورد لطيفة حالمة خضراء وهو أسلوب جان كلود إلينا الدائم عند تعاملة مع الورد فهو يحب يكسبها الجوانب الطبيعية بالرائحة الخضراء.

لمحبي وعشاق شم باقات الووووورد ! وإلى أولئك الحالمين هذا العطر مناسب لهم ولكن ليس في هذه الايام فستشعر بالبروده اكثر، الربيع والخريف والصيف هو وقت هذا العطر
ثبات العطر اكثر 10 ساعات
فوحانه لم يختبر جيد ولكن اتوقع انه جيد
عبير العطر وتميزه 7/10
الانف خلف هذا العطر Jean-Claude Ellena
اعتقد انه سعره مبالغ لاني للامانة لم اجده عطر مميز بدرجة كبيرة هو عطر رائع وحتما سيعجب الكثير وربما سيجدة الغير مميزا حسب اطلاعك ... وبحثك.

خالص التحية والتقدير.
لاتنس ذكر الله وصل على الحبيب .

I love the dark rose style. I think even men could use this perfum because it also muscluine and flowery which is something that you dont find in any other perfums. Highly recomended it even if you are a man.

All the notes in this perfume blend together seamlessly into the equivalent of a beautiful, classy oil painting that my nose would hang up in its living room to show off its good taste (if such a thing were possible).

It is mostly a dry and sophisticated rose with a slight hint of cumin that only really hits you for a millisecond right when you are finished inhaling. Aside from that, not really animalic on me. Like a dress falling off of one shoulder, it hints at sexuality; Rose Poivree doesn't flaunt, it suggests.

Well this is a weird rose. For me the opening is rose and pink pepper, the rose together with the spices makes this dry and weirdly green, there is also an almost fecal undertone which might be from civet, but I am not 100% sure. At this point the scent is rather unique on me, but I cannot say that I enjoy it completely.

When at the opening the scent was at least unique, then in regret I must say that 15 minutes in, the scent gets rather boring on me, the rose is overpowered by pink pepper and the faint resemblance of civet has been drowned in pink pepper and coriander making this, I won't be afraid to say it - an extremely watered down version of some old civet + rose power-bombs.

The base is rather nice - warm and spicy, but nothing that justifies the huge price tag.

All in all - this is a nice scent, nothing particularly unique, has a great opening though, but in the end you will be stuck with a soft and spicy rose which you can get in many other cheaper fragrances.

This is like a dream of dried roses. Really beautiful.

The notes, as listed, are all there. In typical Jean-Claude Ellena fashion each note occupies its own epicycle in a divine celestial dance. The joy in this scent is as much in the space between the notes and their constant and graceful passage in relation to each other. The lodestar of this fragrance is a clean soft rose around which orbit coriander, black and bink pepper each in turn occluding and being occluded by the rose and each other. Orbiting at a distance are the civet and vetiver, observable not in eclipse but in the faint gravitational tug upon the central planets of this stellar olfactory system. While in no way resembling Terre de Hermes in terms of scent, it is clearly a composition that shares both an aesthetic and a set of physical laws.
I am not aware of any tradition of rivalry or dueling artistic commentary among noses, but Rose Poivree seems very much a response to Declaration d'Un Soir. Mathilde Laurent took Mr. Ellena's contribution to Cartier's portfolio and truly one upped the master by adopting his methodology and style and rebuilding a simplified fragrance around a rose note with caraway and cardamom. Roce Poivree is very much a conclusive response- this is a masterpiece of minimalist spiced rose, this is the Ellena Rose.

LOVE this fragrance! I get nothing skanky in it, just deep dark earthy roses sprinkled with freshly ground pepper, edged by a gauze of civet that rounds all the edges without offending in the slightest.

I realize that isn't what some find in this so it is definitely one that shouldn't be a blind buy but also should not be passed by. If it works for you it will be at the top of your list, if it doesn't, well I'm just sorry you don't smell what I smell in this.

DH took one sniff of sample and said BUY IT! I'm so glad I did.

Smell like Chinese pharmacy.

Not diggin this juice at all. On my skin it smells like something Mrs Crabtree would where. Old lady in a bottle...your mileage may differ. I'll pass on this one thanks. Cheers.

I think this can be pulled off by a guy.

I think this because I'm a guy. and I think I pull this off.

There's something masculine in here. Maybe it's the texture of the notes. Somewhat scratchy and sharp.

The fragrance starts of with a fresh blast. The overall impact is of the whole rose bush. Not just the flowers. The leaves, the thorns and importnantly some soil with a tough of fertalizer.

The fertalizer. The civet. The dirty part. It's really not that big. It's just in the backround, but it sticks out on some people. On me, it lays down patiently on the outskirts of the fragrance. Giving just a hint to the floral tones. The cumin yes, it kind of adds a bit to the rose facets. The part of the rose that is reminiscent of an old cork off a bottle of red wine. This part is much more evident with short sniffs. sniff sniff.

But there's also a really generic clean part. I'm guessing this is post reformulation since it was bought a couple months ago. The scent of chamomile tea with Motel shampoo. This part is much more evident when you sniff deeply. Sniiiiiiiihhhhfff.

For me, this is what makes this fragrance wearable. The balance of the dirty, with just a touch of clean.

If you like rose bushes in real life, but don't really like rose perfumes- Check it out.

I like the note that I got in initial sniff. I got very dewy rose in the morning after rain. But suddenly I was slapped with cumin and civet, like a stale dog piss. How I wish the dewy rose smell until the end

Upon first sniff I get a beautiful grungy Jasmine and it then dives down into a heavy red rose sprinkled with pepper; underneath the peppery rose lies the coriander and vetiver base giving it good contrast. If this were a person, Kate Moss would come to mind!

I thought the review likening this to the evil twin of Lyric Woman which happens to be one of my favourites was spot on, I can certainly see the distorted likeness!

I'm also going to try Yardley's English Rose to compare like for like.

I've decided I like this more during dry down it becomes much softer and sweetens just a touch.

Overall a really nice perfume.

I smell no civet in ROSE POIVREE, but a huge dose of cumin. My references for civet are JOY and FIRST; my references for cumin, well, the kitchen! Perhaps synthetic civet has a cuminesque cast? Or maybe civet + coriander reacts to produce a cumin facsimile? Hmmm...

It's also possible that the names have been confused, and there really is plain old cumin in this composition. Anyway, cumin is never subtle—whether in perfumery or cuisine—and I find the quasi-cumin note so marked in the opening of this composition that it somewhat mangles the rose. Unfortunately, as the cumin fades to the point of being tolerable, the rose pretty much dies out. (Death by cumin?)

Well, this is not something that I have any real desire to smell like, and there's no dearth of rose perfumes out there, so I can safely move on...

My perfumer friend described this scent as "a fresh rose bud pissed by a male dog." Somehow I like this description: wild, sensual, animalic, dark and earthy, yet a fresh rose (I think the récipe of rose here is quite similar to the one in Le Labo Rose 31) involved. Like any other comments and critics, it's a really skin scent.
For me, it's not only a skin scent, it's almost my natural odor. I like this piece very well, but if someone asked about the proper occasion to wear it on, I might answer with blushing: fairly suitable for an affair. :P

Second review after re-smelling:
So this is made by Monsieur Ellena! Well, no surprise, he's genius!
Rose Poivrèe is a very wild type of rose, very grown up and running into fields, deep, intense and taken together with stem and spikes!
It must be pepper that makes that effect, because Rose Poivrèe smells EXACTLY like Rossy de Palma Eau de Protection, another masterpiece rose!
In my previous review I said it smells close to Creed Fleurs de Bulgarie.
I think the concept is more or less the same: rose, pepper, animal note.
You need to like rose to wear this, I mean love rose in a deep, no compromise way, because this is no rosewater (even if rosewater is also very appealing to me). Most of all you need to like a rose drenched in warm smelling pepper and spices.
It's an intensely attractine fragrance for me, but as same as Eau de Protection it doesn't pull crowds around you. Too much of a sophisticated smell!
I would see a refined, artistic lady wandering in museums and old libraries, dressed in perfect style, with an apparent cold attitude, but totally warm and wild at heart!
The sillage is average, it projects finely but not invadently and lasting power is very good.
Like Rossy de Palma it goes on steaming for hours in a subtle way, closer and closer to skin but always present and slightly changing to different nuances.
A beauty for sure, maybe not for all noses.

I bought a sample of this from Lucky Scent after I read about it in the NY Times style section. I get rose to start but about 20 minutes later I'm looking around for my bottle of Aromatics Elixir...only I don't have any! I've never experienced another scent so similar to the AE and it must be the civet that attracts me down this fragrance path.

I had a decant, and had to pass it on... although I am a die hard rose fan, and I wanted this one for the longest time, it was unwearable to me. I don't know if I had the pre or after reformulation version; but it was strong, extremely dry , green, peppery, without any hint of sweetness. It actually smelled like red and green peppers than like rose; the rose in it seemed too crisp to stand out, mixing its scent with the predominant pepper scent, and loosing the femininity to a rather masculine approach of what a rose should be; on a positive note, it was stronger than other scents I tried from The Different Company, and very long lasting. Well, I guess in the end it's a matter of skin chemistry; but for how expensive this niche is, I surely expected to like it more.

Pre-reformulated version:

In theory the idea of combining rose and pepper really appeals to me. The opulent round rose fragrance would be made edgy and sharp by a sprinkling of pepper.

I want to say that what hit me in the nose at first spritz was a whiff of strong and bracing pepper. Or the driest wave of coriander. I kept sniffing the target on my wrist as it radiated the most concentrated aroma. I simply couldn't believe my nose. Because what I smelled was: unwashed body-- B.O.-- Dirty laundry--no, to be precise, dirty gym gear.

My husband got my wrist thrust under his nose again--and he diplomatically said: "I do smell something floral..."

The animalic blast receded after quite some time, leaving a very interesting rose. It was the intense smell of a rose after a week of sitting in a vase on your table. The petals are heavy and dropping, and there is that woody, weepy smell when a rose is wilting.

I can appreciate this perfume-the concept is creative and makes perfect sense. But I don't think I could wear it.

Oh niches... Sometimes very overrated & hyped. "Rose Poivree" smells very much like YARDLEY "English Rose". I kid you not!

Only Yardley's rose is sharper. Not 100% identical, but yet still "almost like this". A big old-fashioned classic Bulgarian rose. A deep red rose in full bloom. Saprklingly vibrant, & with an fantastic strength, sillage & staying-power. The old-fashioned from the 1800-century. Note: Remeber to use it with a very light hand. A bottle of Yardley's rose will last you ages.

YARDLEY "English Rose" is $10-15 for 100ml edt. "Rose Poivree" is $233 for 90ml. Well, the choice is yours to make - which one will you choose! ;)

It's a Big Sister of many rose fragrances. It's not a girl like La Rose Fleurette whose pink rose whispers on a cloud of heliotrope and light touch of honey. This rose is spicy in every meaning of a word, it's a little bit dirty, in every meaning of its word. It's not a girl, it's a woman of the world, quite experienced and ready for more experiences!

Intoxicating slightly bitter rose, lightly breathing in the air. It could be perfect just like this, but the whiffs of pepper make this rose more original. They bring the impression of worldly originality. And when the slightly sexy animalistic smell comes in, there is already no doubt about the nature of experiences of the Rose's Big Sis!

Too bad it didn't stay long with me. Apparently, my skin just eats up this scent, so I can brag that I can eat Big Sis for breakfast!

Ah, and I do know that red roses rarely smell, but this rose is red. I can see it.

I really can't decide whether I love it or hate it.It smells like roast with lot of ground cumin and pepper.I think it's wild,only a self confident person could wear this!

My maternal Grandmother owned a small, black lacquered box that was lined inside with dark, red velvet. It's where she kept her jewelry, prized possessions, ... and favorite dirty jokes.

When she passed away this black box went to my mother,and every time I"m home I like to go through it to bring back memories. This box has a very distinct smell, and Rose Poivre reminds me of that smell.

It's a musky, spicy rose smell that I love to sniff when I'm sitting there reading the joke on 'Sister Mary peddles 'Donkey' to raise money for church'. (Noun replaced for decency's sake).

How funny to discover my Gma had a naughty sense of humor. This scent, too, has a naughty sense of humor. You think it's sweet with 'rose' in the name, but then you come to the punch line.

The pink pepper/coriander duo is also in my beloved Bois D'armenie, but here vetiver and civet replace incense and guaic wood, making it edgy and commanding versus smooth and serene. Vetiver, unfortunately, is a note I can't wear very well, and keeps this from getting a pass from me.

But I'm sure my Gma would have loved this.

Uh! Here comes the beast! This is very animalic since the beginning and IMO a very well done one. The quality of ingredients seems very high. It is peppery and I like that part. The rest is predominantly rose on a dirty animalic background. It smells vaguely like Creed Fleurs de Bulgarie, but warmer and less distant. It reminds me a lot of old traditional perfumery renewed, because it's a very unusual type of raw ingredients compared to new releases. It could have been a signature scent for a wild eccentric grand-mother!

quite unusual - the rose note with such a background is just delicios.

Too peppery by far ,the rose was there for a brief moment. I get the impression the cheapest ingredients are predominant . It's not worth the price tag.

Rose Poivree was the first from TDC I'd tried. I'm impressed by the quality of its ingredient. The rose you get from it, is the pure and fresh. Dark read roses dampen with dew. It smelled luxurious and somehow relaxing. I love to inhale deeply and can't get enough of it. If you like rose, this is a must try. If you don't like rose, it still worth trying. It is so different from others rose inspired scents in the market.