GoT 37 ПОСЛЕДЕН СЕЗОН - Да бъдеш или не.. /06.05.-12.05./

mean, the story has been building up Daenerys as an eventual antagonist for basically the entire length of the novels/show. The show has just done a terrible job depicting it, with basically no buildup.

But when you really look at the core of the Daenerys character, starting in Season 1, she wanted to invade a foreign land she's never been to, all because her sadistic brother and some greedy foreign investors told her that her family had the Iron Throne "stolen" from them, and that it is her birthright.

Right there, from Day 1, think about who set her on this path. War profiteers and a sociopath.

Now, we can say that she's done "Good" things, and that is true. But at the core of it, she's never once abandoned, or really even questioned, whether or not she has a "right" to the Iron Throne. Remember, the myths of "succession" and "birthright" and all the other divine provenance were made up by feudal lords to keep their subjects in line, and deter usurpers. However, in reality, Kings and Queens keep their thrones only as long as they can, and that's usually by force. And the force comes from convincing other people they should use force on your behalf.

Look at the Wars of the Roses. The English Crown changed hands 7 times in roughly 35 years. Why? Well, it's complicated. But the core issue at hand was that Henry IV had shown that you can just "replace" a king. Now, Henry IV was strong, as was Henry V, his son. But Henry VI was pious and somewhat meek. He was more interested in study and prayer than he was with continuing the Hundred Years War in France, so he pursued peace. That, combined with some unfavorable battles and poor generalship, caused England to lose all of their holding on the mainland except for the city of Calais. This set into motion a series of fairly small but bloody dynastic battles when his uncle tried to depose him, usually arguing that it was "best for England" though his actions showed there was probably more than a little greed and ego at play. Ultimately, after a swap around between Henry VI, Edward IV and Richard III, we ended up with his cousin Henry VII, who was half Welsh, half French (his grandmother was Henry VI's mother). And he did itusing an army comprised largely of foreigners, including some unruly guys from the far North and a bunch from across the narrow sea, I mean English Channel.

Why the historical lesson? Well, it applies back here. Nobody in Westeros has a "right" to the Iron Throne. Robert Baratheon took it because he could. The Mad King lost it because he lost the faith of too many of his subjects. Neither man had a "right" to the throne, and neither has Daenerys. Now, the problem with Game of Thrones is that the show has never questioned this. Daenerys has always been presented from her own point of view, and the characters around her have never questioned her.

But here are some facts: Daenerys has already been queen. In a land she had conquered, and conquered more or less justifiably. She abandoned that place to invade Westeros. She had previously abandoned places like Yunkai, and the people she "freed" were quickly snapped up back into slavery in her absence. Daenerys is shortsighted, arrogant, and power hungry. Her eyes have always been over the horizon (literally and figuratively) at what is "hers" and what was "stolen" from her, rather than what she actually has and whether or not she has any right to reclaim the throne in Westeros. She's not doing it because she thinks she can do a better job. She's not doing it because of the people of Westeros. She's doing it solely for personal aggrandizement.

Not to mention that, at the ethical/moral base of it, conquering Westeros means killing thousands of innocent people. Whether or not Cersei is a shitty person, the vast majority of the people who will die in this war, so that Daenerys can be queen, are peasants and soldiers following the orders of their liege lords. This is a land that has already suffered through a civil war at the behest of would be tyrants. Daenerys is no different than the Lannisters in that regard. If anything, she's worse, because at least the Lannisters had the opportunity to take the throne without a war. Joffrey just botched it. Daenerys was always going to start a war. Was always going to kill thousands of innocent people. Right on the doorstep of the Long Winter.

Your problem is that you've placed Daenerys on a Hero's Pedestal. She has never belonged there.

Историята, т.е. Мартин изгражда Дани като евентуален антагонист още от началото на романите / шоуто. Проблемът е, че шоуто не успя да ни го покаже.

Погледнете характера на Дани, започвайки от 1-ви сезон. Тя иска да нахлуе в чужда земя, където никога не е била, само защото садистичният й брат и алчни чужди инвеститори постоянно й обясняваха, че семейството й притежава Железния Трон, и това е тяхно родно право.

Кой й го обясняваше това – военни спекуланти и един социопат.

Не можем да отречем напълно, че е извършила добри неща, но никога никога не изоставя и не поставя под въпрос правото си за Железния Трон.

Не забравяйте, че митовете за "наследяването" и "кръвното право" и всички други божествени произходи са използвани от феодалните господари, за да запазят подчинените си и възпират узурпаторите. В действителност обаче кралете и кралете пазят троновете си толкова дълго, колкото могат, и това обикновено става със сила. А силата идва чрез убеждаване на други хора, че трябва да използват сила от ваше име.


Никой във Вестерос няма "право" на Железния Трон. Робърт Баратеон го взима, защото може. Лудият крал го губи, защото загубва доверието на твърде много от своите поданици. Нито един от двамата няма „право“ на трона, както и Дани няма право на Трона.


Но ето някои факти: Дани вече беше кралица. В земя, която бе завладяла повече или по-малко оправдано. Тя изостави това място, за да нападне Вестерос. Преди това изостави Юнкай, а хората, които беше „освободила“, бяха пак поробени. Дани е късогледа, арогантна и жадна на власт. Очите й винаги са били над хоризонта (буквално и в преносен смисъл) в това, което е "нейно" и какво е "откраднато" от нея. Тя не си задава въпроса, дали наистина има право на Трона. Тя не го прави, защото си мисли, че може да свърши по-добра работа. Тя не го прави заради жителите на Вестерос. Тя го прави само заради себе си.


От етична и морална гледна точка, завладяването на Вестерос означава убиване на хиляди невинни хора. Церсей е гаднярка, но мнозинството от хората, които ще умрат, за да може Дани да седне на Трона, са селяни и войници, които следват заповедите на техните лордове. Това е земя, която вече е пострадала от гражданска война по заповед на тирани. Дани не се различава от Ланистърите в това отношение. Дани дори е по-лоша, защото Ланистерите поне взеха Трона без война. И Дани се готви да започне война точно на прага на Дългата Зима.

Проблемът на някои фенове е, че са поставили Дани на пиедестал. Тя никога не е била там.