За свободата на словото и себеизразяването – модно издание

И ти ме разочароваш, Ли Лу. Защото не четеш точно както останалите коне с капаци тук. В три поредни поста написах, че нямам нищо против да съществуват и двата модела. Просто не смятам, че са идентични, и не разбирам нуждата да се сравняват и да се изтъква кой е по-добър. Сега като го написах четвърти път, дали ще ме разбереш най-накрая?

п.п. идеално се илюстрира тук огромната грешка на гей-активизма. И тя е в придържането към максимата "Който не скача по моята свирка точно както на мен ми се иска, е враг". Е, да ама не може всички да мислят точно като нас, нали така? Нюанси на сивото има повече от 50

Пропуснала съм края на последното ето го пак:

Anna Frackman, a Harvard Medical School
student, rejects the notion that her success proves that
her parents deserved to marry:
I have both worked very hard and been very
lucky to achieve what I have in my life, and I
am grateful most of all to my parents for this,
but my success is not a reason why my parents
or any other gay couple should be able to have
their families recognized by the law.
They would be no less deserving if I had
dropped out of high school or fallen victim to
substance abuse or found myself in otherwise
less than ideal circumstances. Our families
should be recognized simply because we are
humans with the same rights as everyone
else. We are families, and treatment of us as
anything else is discrimination

Да ПУСКАМ ли още? 

Такаа... да си поговорим за езикът и свободата на словото.
Не мисля да си цапам ръцете с теб и да те докладвам на модератор за обидата, но у мен възниква философският въпрос - след като ти не се свениш да ме обиждаш, независимо колко "възвишено" звучи обидата ти, ако аз ти кажа, че си тъпа пуйка, ти ще го направиш ли? А ако ти кажа, че си грачещ гей?

Или с други думи в светлината на свободата на словото, кое е по-приемливо да ти кажа - тъпа пуйка или грачещ гей?

Приканвам те да бъдеш по-внимателна с епитетите.
Но, тъй като темата всъщност е твоя, най-добре да се оттегля изцяло.
Свобода да си гониш гостите, както и да си избереш домакините.

А аз те приканвам да не бъдеш толкова докачлива и да се замислиш дали не трябва аз да съм обидена от твоята не толкова директна, но също толкова неприятна забележка. Която е освен всичко останало и съвсем неоснователна.
(извинявам се за епитета, ако те е засегнал )

Не, защото както аз, така и повечето непредубедени хора знаят прекрасно, че не съм тъпа пуйка, а интелигентна, знаеща, широкоскроена жена, с два доктората. Приемам хората такива, каквито са, и не ме интересува дали са черни, жълти, лилави или оранжеви, дали са гей или не, дали са християни или не. Всякакви приятели имам. Аз ги уважавам, те ме уважават. И бих предпочела дъщеря ми да ми доведе цветнокож с диплома от Харвард, пред бял неграмотник, който си прекарва времето в пиене.

Проста пуйка съм била.  

Аз честно, не разбирам за какво е спора. Наистина не се чете. Само се пише. И не визирам само вас двете.

Аз продължавам с още деца!

Fifteen-year-old Kentuckian J.M. put it this way:
Over the years, there have been several
occasions when it felt strange not to have a dad,
but I have friends who have dads who are not
part of their lives, and friends who have had
a dad or mom die. In the end, I realize what
counts is having two parents who love and
support you

Twelve-year-old G.O. lives in a state where same-sex
couples are no longer excluded from marriage, and he is
excited about the wedding his mothers are planning. But
he wishes they could have married sooner:
They would have done it many years ago and
taken advantage of all the bene
fits that married people typically get. Not to mention all the
fights and arguments that they constantly
have to go through with the medical offices
explaining why they should have access to each
other’s medical records or to their kid’s medical
information.

As 12-year-old T.M. of Kentucky
put it, “I already know my sisters, my moms, and I are
a family. But having the government recognize it would
validate my family to other people

A 10-year-old from Chicago told Family Equality
Council: “When my parents were married I was happy
because we were now an equal family.”


Jenny Rain, who
is 44 years old, explains that the satisfaction of watching
parents marry is not limited to younger children. Her
fathers were together for 36 years before they
finally married last year:

You don’t think that a simple piece of paper
designating your parents as “married” can
have a tangible difference on the bond you have
with them – but it does. I watched decades of
marginalization of my family fall away in the
moment that the judge pronounced them as
husband and husband.

Nineteen-year-old Rianna Johnson-Levy, who was
born and raised in Ann Arbor, Michigan, describes what it
meant for her to watch her mothers marry in Washington,
D.C.:

I have always believed that what bonds my
parents together, after 30 years, is the pride
they have for the family and the life they have
created. To be able to sign the certi
ficate, to be able to use the words, marriage, wife, and
spouse, and to be able to leave a hotel in the
morning, knowing you were on the way to a
wedding, was the most natural and logical
progression I could have imagined.

Twelve-year-old C.G. from Tennessee, whose mothers
married in Illinois, said:they were meant for each other and they love
each other. This completes our family, and
there’s nothing better.

Because Texas would not permit 18-year-old Baltazar
Martinez’ two dads to marry, they traveled to California:

They had been together for so many years
before they even met me and adopted me.
Once they got mar r ied, they were even happier
together. ... And I got to be their best man at
their wedding and that was probably the best
moment in my life.

Nineteen-year-old Payton
McGriff described it this way:
As amazing as the wedding was, it was still
bittersweet. We were hesitant to celebrate too
much because we knew that the marriage would
not be recognized in our home state of Idaho. It
is just baffling to me that people
fight so hard to deny something that brought our family so much joyл
J.B., a 14-year-old living with her two moms in Florida,
echoed this exper ience: “ The fact that my parents can’t get
mar r ied makes me feel that ever yone isn’t equal. Like my
moms are not as good as other people’s parents.

Fifteen-year-old S.K.-J. from Indiana had trouble accepting that
her mothers were “considered two single people even
though they have been in a committed relationship for
over 25 years.

Eleven-year-old R.G. and his younger sister were
adopted by their dads, who met each other 25 years ago
in Tennessee and are now raising their family in Ohio.
R.G. told amici: “My only dream is for my parents to get
married someday, and I pray for that every night

Не искат специален закон или специални привилегии за хомосексуални, а само приравняване по права с хетеросексуалните, което може да стане с промяна в чл. 5 на Семейния кодекс, че: " Бракът се сключва по взаимно, свободно и изрично съгласие на мъж и жена, дадено лично и едновременно пред длъжностното лице по гражданското състояние."

Аз, честно, не разбирам смисъла на твоите доказателства. Би ли казала с кого спориш и за какво, защото се обърках.  

Доколкото четох, не се отрича правото на гей двойките да сключват брак. Поне твоите доказателства аз така ги разбирам.

Няколко страници по-назад имаше мнения, че децата в тези семейства се чувстват зле, тъй като нямат баща. Даде се пример с 4 деца, които са отглеждани в еднополови семейства и които казват, че това им се е отразило зле. И понеже научните изследвания, които поствам бяха сведени до "пиши си ти, ама не са важни, важно е как се чувстват децата", то реших днешния ден да го отделя на това как се чувстват децата! Имам и още деца, чиито мнения мога да покажа и ЩЕ

Следващата порция преживявания на деца на еднополови двойки! Само да попитам колко хиляди е добре да постна?

In the words of 18-year-old
Maggie Franks:
My moms have been together for 22 years,
and I could not have asked for better, more
supportive parents. The inability to legally
marry essentially sentence my parents’
relationship to second class status, not only
making our family feel less worthy than others,
but denying us rights that are enjoyed by other
families headed by straight parents

A 10-year-old told New Jersey legislators that the
absence of marriage as an option for his parents led him
to question the legitimacy of his family: “It doesn’t bother
me to tell kids my parents are gay. It
does bother me to say they aren’t married. It makes me feel that our family
is less than a family

To one young woman whose mothers have been
together for thirty years, efforts to limit full recognition
of marriage to different-sex couples “felt like a slap in
the face”:

How could the free society that raised me and
taught me everything that I know, now deny me
my other foundation, a family that is recognized
and protected as such? It felt like a slap in the
face from my country. I had never asked for
validation, but blatant exclusion hurts.

Statement from Tsipora Prochovnick to Family Equality
Council

M.Q.B., a 14-year-old Iowan, explained that home-
state marriage did not entirely solve the problem for
her family. Though Iowa and other states recognize her
mothers’ marriage, she says, “that still leaves a large part
of the country where they don’t have the legal protection
of marriage.”
I like traveling, and one of my moms has a blood
clotting disorder, and if she had a problem while
we were traveling, my other mom wouldn’t be
able to speak for her or direct her care as would
someone who was legally married. That makes
me nervous because I know that she would be
the best one to speak on her behalf

The story of Oklahoman Jamie Doepel is a chilling
example of what the practical impact of marriage
inequality can look like. Jamie describes how her mother
and her mother’s partner, Elaine, “saw Jamie through
high school and raised [her] like any other family raised
their children.
But after moving in temporarily with an ailing family
member to provide nursing care, Elaine died suddenly.
Jamie’s mother was not noti
fied. Instead, she learned
of Elaine’s death when she went to inquire about the
electricity in their house having been turned off and was
told the account had been closed because Elaine (the
account holder) was dead:
While standing at the [utility company] payment
window, my mom found out that her life partner,
other mother to her children, had died

I want the same rights as everybody else. I’m human! I
should be treated the same way. ... Marriage is almost
like a guarantee that somebody will be there for you when
you wake up in the morning, to help you through your
darkest hours, this is what a marriage is.
M.R., 15 years old, Michigan

I don’t want to destroy or alter American society and
values. I want to take part in them too.
Matthew Pagnotti, then 19 years old, Virginia

“Like many other Americans,” wrote Matthew
Pagnotti, “I dream of
finding the love of my life and raising
a family with them, passing on many of the values that my
parents taught me when I was young.

Стана ми интересно, какви са основателните причини човек да не желае тъмнокожи внуци ?!

Че няма да има очите на баба Популе?
А недай си боже да е мюсюлманин, сигурно още на 12 ще вика "Смърт на неверниците".  

Защото намирам бялата раса за по-красива. Нещо против?