Почитатели на Майкъл Джексън 12 - HUMAN NATURE

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Видях това като извадки от книгата на Шмули. Някоя добра душица ще направи ли един превод  Praynig Praynig


Janet

MJ: When Janet went through her fat stage she cried alot, my sister Janet. She decided to just lose it all, "I'm gonna lose this," and she did it. She was very unhappy.

Shmuley: Are you very protective over her as a younger sister?

MJ: Yeah I was determined to make her lose weight. I was bad. Iwould tease her to make her lose it. I didn't like it on her. I didn't like it because I knew she would have a hard time.

Shmuley: How did you get her to do something about it?

MJ: I said you have to lose weight "cause you look like a FAT COW" I would tell her and that was mean of me to say that was mean of me to say that. She would say, "Shut up," and I'd say "You shut up."


Relationships/Women/ Lisa marie

How do your feel about men who are not faithful to their wives?

MJ:I dont't think it's good but I understand it. I know that is a strange answer.

You find wome fall in love with you all the time as the megastar so you don;t judge men who are unfaithful, because fometimes you'll ascribe it to women who make themselves available?

MJ:I don't judge them because women can do some things that make guys very unhappy. I have seen it with my brothers. I have seen my brothers crying, in teears and pulling grass out of the lawn with frustrations because of their wives.

Do you think a lot of their wives are interested in their success than them?

MJ:Absolutely. They were after their money. That's why I said to myself that I would never be married. I held out the longest. I stayed at home until I was twenty-seven, twenty-eight.

So part of the attraction to LMP that she had her own money and her own fame and you did'nt have to become anxious that she was interested in you for the wrong reasons?

MJ:Absolutely she did'nt take a penny [when we got divorce] she did'nt want anything. She makes about a million dollars a yer from Elvis memorabilia and selling all that stuff and she has her own thing. She is not her to take, you know.

So that means there was almost like one girl in the whole world that you could marry becaue even a rich woman would want your name. Yu needed someone with money and a name. You were down to a Presley or a McCartney or something like that.

MJ:I know Lisa was great. She was a sweet person. But it is hard to tie me down. I can't stay in one place one time so that's why I don't know if I can really be completely married all the time.

Did you want to be a father to her kids?

MJ:Yes

Do you still stay in touch with the children?

MJ:Yes and with her.

But marriage is too confining?

MJ:Yes. I don't know whether I'm disciplined enough because I am such a rolling stone. I have such a life when I am always on the move and women don't like that. They want you to be settled in one place all the time but I have to move. I have been in the same city as where my house is and I'll check into a hotel just to feel like I'm going somewhere. My house is right there. I guess I'm just moving all the time, moving.
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Do you get lonely? Or is there so much going on in your life that it does'nt really happen?

MJ:Like lonely for a wife? For like a mate? Like that?

SB: Yeah

MJ: I've been through two bad divorces. I just got out of the second one.. Even when married to those women that I was married to, I'd go to bed hurting. I was hurting. I was crying last night as I went to sleep and I did'nt sleep good last night.
and I cry Shmuley, because I feel this...and I'm not trying. I'm telling you the honest truth and if your don't believe me you can ask Frank. Frank knew how I was hurting. I just was feeling all the pain of the children who suffer and I was hurting so much. That's why I was trying to reach any child I knew who had pain from[Michael mention a lttle girl who was battling cancer and whose family he met at our home] to Gavin[Michael's later acuser]. I was trying to like calling, dialing and I woke up the first thing, the first person I called was the little girl's house and she had gone already. It hurts me. But I think that's where my real love comes from,Shmuley. If I can help in that way I'm fine and I don't need the other[romantic love].
You know if I meet some girl somewhere and I think she's beautiful, which I see a lot of them, that's great. I mean, I'll go on a date or something. Nothing wrong with that. Jennifer Lopez looked awfully good the other day, she did. I was shocked' cause I never thought....She looked good.

But have you given up on women understanding you? You tend to think that children will understand you a lot better?

MJ: I'm not easy to live with in that way for a wife. I not easy and I know I'm not easy.Because I give all my time to someone else. I give it to children. I give it to somebody sick somewhere, to the music. And women want to be the center. And I remember LMP would always say to me," I'm not a piece of furniture." "I'm not a piece of furniture." You just can't..." and I say, " I don't want you to be a piece of furniture," and you know, there'd be some sick little girls calling on the phone and she'd get mad and hang up on them. And, you know, I feel that's my that's my mission, Shmuley. I have to do it.

What if you found a woman you was soft, who was incredibly soft?

MJ: Like a Mother Teresa or a Lady Diana or...That would be great. I would be perfect.

Would it be better than having to do it on your own?

MJ: Absolutely, and Lisa was great with going to the hospitals with me, and she was so sweet about that. They would tie the babies to the bed of chain children down. We'd go unchain...we'd go free all these babies. I hated that and she discovered a lot of that injustice with me. Countries like Romania and Prague, Czech and all that, Russia.

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Lisa Marie was good about at least visiting. So she had no problem going and doing some of the compassionate things of giving these children love and making them feel special.
MJ: She had no problem doing that but her and I had several big arguments ' cause she's very terretorial with her children. Her children were [her major concern]....and I said "No, all children are our concern," and she never liked that coming from me. She was very angry about that. Pluse she had a fight with me one time when 2 little boys in London killed this other kidand I was going to visit them cause the queen gave them adult sentencing of life. These were like 11 and 10 year old boys and I was going to the prison and visiting them. SHe said, "You idiot. You're just rewarding them for what they did." I said" How dare you say that." I bet if you trace their lives you can find they did'nt have parents around, they did'nt have any love, nobody there to hold them look in their eyes and say "I love you,." They deserve that even if they are going to get life, I just want to say I love you and hold them. " She said, "Well you're wrong." I said "No, you're wrong." The information came out they came from broken families, were never watched as little kids, attended to. Their pacifier was those Chucky movies with the stabbings and the killings. And that's how they became conditioned to that.

Did she admit then you had a good point?

MJ: Nope, she thinks I'm rewarding bad kids.

Did she want you to be a father to her kids?

MJ: Well that was once asked of her. She was asked that question on tv and she said, "No, they have a father. Theit father is Keogh," that other guy. But I was really good to her children. Every day I'd bring them home something and they'd be waiting by the window for me and hug me. I love them. I miss them so much.

Did she get used to living at Neverland or was it too isolated?

MJ: Lisa did'nt live at Neverland. We visited Neverland the way...I lived at her house in the city and every once in a while we visited Neverland. It would be like our fun weekend.

And her children liked it?

MJ: Are you kidding me? They were like in heaven.

And you were happy to show it to them?

MJ: Mmm hmm
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But I'm a believer in marriage. So when your relationship with Lisa started to fall apart was it very hard? Your idealism about the family, everthing you believed in building the intimate family you always wanted, especially because you knew....

MJ: I wanted children and she didn't.

She felt she had her kids.

MJ: Yeah, and she promised me before we married, that would be the first thing we'd do was have children. So I was broken-hearted and I walked around al the time holding these little baby dolls and I'd be crying, that's how badly I wanted them. So I was determined to have children. It disappointed me that she would'nt keep her promise to me, you know? After we got divorced she would hang out with my mother all the time. I have all these letters saying, " I'll give you nine children. I'll do whatever you want." and of course the press don't know all these stories and she just tried for months and months and I just became too hard-hearted at that point. I closed my mind on the whole situation.

So she thought maybe you could get back together?

MJ: Uh huh

But children were a major, major issue?

MJ: Of course.

She had the kids and that was it.

MJ: She had hers and I wanted us to feel like we all were one big family and have more. Just my dream is to have 9 or 10 children, that's what I want.

You're still very young. Do you think that will happen?

MJ: Yeah

But then again it means getting married again.

MJ: Yeah

Are you happy to do that?

MJ: Uh huh... or adopt.

Is it possible Michael you're attracting the wrong kind of girl because of your celebrity?

MJ: It's hard That's why it's hard, it's hard for me. It is hard. It's not easy for celebrities to be married.

Do you think that you could only really marry celebrities so that they don't need you as much?

MJ: That helps, in my opinion. And they understand what you go through. They've been there.

They help you for the right reasons, then?

MJ: Yeah, they're not after you know, WHat you've made [ the money] or you know? [singing] "That's what your are...." [ He won a Grammy for that.]
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What did Cindy Crawford want from you last night?

MJ: I have seen Cindy several times, and she was with other guys, and we have met up at the other functions...from afar. I thin she felt thiw was her chance to really meet me. She probably admires me. A lot of people come over. What you saw was nothing.

You have seen celebrites behave like that, like a pack of dogs chasing after someone more famous than them? It's so degrading.

MJ: Yes! It's worse

What did she talk to you about?

MJ: [Imitating Crawford] How are you? I go, I'm all right." Oh you sure your are okay?, Oh I just love your work, and I love what you do. How long are you in town? I sad, I am working her. I'm recording.

Do you think there was a romantic interest?

MJ:Yeaaaah. I kinda think so.

Was she asking you out?

MJ: Those girls flirt...they flirt. She is pretty.

It was blatant. A banker who was with us at the table said to me, Cindy Crawford, when she is up close she is just another gal. I said " But what is she doing here?"

MJ: Did you see Donald Trump come over?

Now he's an interesting man

MJ: A woman I really liked and respected was Princess Diana.

Why?

MJ: Because she was classy and sincerly cared about people and children and the plight of what was going on in the world. She did'nt do it for show. I like the way she made her kids wait in line to get on a ride for something.

Can we say that there was an ever so innocent slight romantic attraction? Or do you not want to say that? Do you just want to say that you thought she was a very special?

MJ: She was a feminine kind of woman?

MJ: Very feminine and classy. She was my type for sure, and I don't like most girls. There are very few I like who fit the mold. It takes a very special mold to make me happy and she was on of them. For sure.

Because of her love of kids?

MJ:It takes a lot to find a mirror image, a mirror image. People always say that opposites attract and I think that is true, as well. But I want somebody who is alot like me, who has the same interests and who wants to help and they gotta go to hospitals with me and care about Gavin. That's why you saw LMP and me at those kind of things. She cared about stuff, too.

Did you ever think of asking Princess Diana out?

MJ: Absolutely

So why did'nt you have the never to ask her?

MJ: I never aksed a girl out in my life. The have to ask me.

Really

MJ:I can't ask a girl out.

If she would have asked you out ...

MJ:Absolutely. Iwould have gone. Brooke Shields aksed me out every time you saw us out together. It was her idea to go out and do it every time. I sincerley liked Brooke Shields too. I liked her a lot.

Does she like kids?

MJ: Yes, my first girlfriend, Tatum O'Neal she'd won the Academy Award for Paper Moon... I was 16, she was 13. And I was very naiive. She wanted to do everything and I did'nt want to have sex at all, because there were a lot of valuses associated with being a JW. I said, "are you crazy?" One of those was to be kind to everyone. WHen I held Tatum's hand it was just magic, better than anything, kisisng her, anything. Her, Ryan O'Neal and myself went to this club and were watching a band and underneath a table she was holding my hand I was was melting. It was magical. There was fireworks going on. It was all I needed But that means nothing to kids today. She grew up too fast. She was'nt into innocence, and I loved that.


Madonna

MJ: Madonna laid down the law before we went out."I am not going to Disneyland, okay? That's out." I said, "But I didn't ask you to go to Disneyland." She said,"We are going to a restaurant and afterwards we are going to a strip bar." I said, "Iam not going to a strip bar." Guys who cross-dress! Afterwards se wrote some mean things about me in the press and I said that she is a nasty witch, after I was so kind to her. I have told you that we were at the table eating and some little kids came up. "Oh my God, Michael Jackson and Madonna. Can we have your autograph?" She said, "Get out of here. Leave us alone." I said, "Don't ever talk to children like that." She said, "Shut up." I said, "You shut up." That's how we were. Then we went out again and went to the Acadamy Awards and she is not a nice person. I have to say it. She is not a nice person.

MJ: How would you like getting a phone call and she is telling you that she is putting her fingers between her legs. I would say, "oh madonna, please." She said, "what I want you to do when I hang up the phone is to rub yourself and think of me." That's the kind of stuff she says. She does. When I see her she says "This is the finger I used last night." Wild, out of control.

MJ: She (Madonna) did a lot of crazy things and that's how that went. I knew we had nothing in common. But I am pretty sure that having a baby has to change you. I don't know how much she has changed. I'm sure she is a better person than before. She is not sexy at all. I think sexy comes from the heart in the way you present yourself.

Boteach: Have you ever found women who are a bit more modest to be more attractive for that reason?

MJ: Yeah. I don't like women who are always saying, "My nails need to be done. I have to do my toes. I need a manicure." I hate all that. I lke it whe girls are a little bit more tomboyish. IF they wrestle, climb a tree..... I love that. It is sexier to me. I like class, though. Class is everything.


Liz Taylor

Michael talks about her in the book and calls her childlike too. They would call each other up and talk in whiny voices saying I need you. Oh I need you too. He described their relationships like brother and sister, mother and son, lovers.
He said she adored him and would do anything for him.

When asked if he is jealous of her relationships he said, " Yes and no." He said if they ever did anything romantically the press would label them the odd couple and would say mean and nasty things. " It's none of their business what we have together." " I have to be with people like me."

Some rappers will say let's hang out at a club. And I'll say What? Let's hang? "I don't think so." That kind of thing is not a party for me.


Sex

In trying to preserve your childlike qualities in your life Michael, you have shied away form talking about overt sexuality. Like when Oprah asked yout about your sex life, you repsonded something to the effect, " that I'm a gentleman I don't talk about that." Do you feel that we should be more respectful of the sexual side of our lives? Has it all become to overt? I mean you're naturally shy about this.

MJ: Yeah, I'm just naturally, um cause I think that's...

Private

MJ: Yeah, that's my personal opinion. Other people who are exhibitionist, you know naturists, who go out nude and they feel different about it. Um, I don't know, I'm different in that way.

We don't have to misuse our sexuality to increase ticket sales and record sales?

MJ: No, that's crazy, like some singers who put bulges in their pants, that's crazy. I don't understand that. That's like disgusting to me when they do stuff like that. That's embarrassing. I dont want nobody to even look at me down....like looking for that. That would just embarrass me so bad, oh God.


Women

So of the women you've dated, the ones who were smart enough not to throw themselves at you, were they the ones that you were more interested in, the ones who were'nt always available and you had to chase them abit?

MJ: The ones who were classy and quiet and not into all the sex all the craziness because I am not into that.

They are the ones you are more interested in?

MJ: Aha. I don't understand a lot of things that go on in relationships and I don't know if I ever will. I think that is what has hurt me in my reltionships because I don't understand how people do some of the things they do.

Mean things

MJ: Mean things and vulgar things with their bodies. I don't understand it and it has hurt my relationships.

So for you love is something very pure?

MJ: Very pure. It shocked me some of the things.

What was it about Diana, that kind of woman, her dignity that kind of innocence? Do you see that often in people where they have a regal bearing to them?

MJ: No we don't see it and that's what I love. I think she truly cared about people's feelings and really tried to make the world a better place. I really believe that her heart was out for other people. You could see it in some of the photos where she is touching those little baby's faces and they are sitting on her lap and she would be holding them. That's not faked. You could see it. When you see come out she has got these gloves on and she is waving from a distance, you can see the heart. You can see. You put your money where your mouth is and you go in those huts and ho in those ditches and sit with them and sleep there. That's doing it, that's what I do. Remember when you said you saw my picture in China in some hut, some lady's hut. I go there and I touch the people and I see them.

*skips down*

Have you ever met a woman like that who loves the same those same things, who'd play hide and sek with you, who'd love the water fights with you?

MJ: Not yet. The ones I have had are jealous of the children. All of them. The get jealous of their own kids and start competing with them. That rubs me in a bad way.

*skips down*

Have you ever found girls who like practical jokes that you like? Have you ever found a woman who collects comics?

MJ: It is a rarity. If I find one I will go nuts. Especially, if she has those qualities and is beautiful inside. It would be a home run for me. That's why guys hang out. Because they can do that.


Video girls

MJ: That's why it's my job to cast the girl, because it' my job to think they are cute. So I can do that if I really like them, like some of the girls you see in my videos. I have cast them because I really like them and it caused a problem afterwards because they start to really like me, and I don't want to get that serious, and it becomes a problem sometimes.

*skips down*

So how often do you find that women really get clingy?

MJ: What do you mean?

Like you said, it supposed to be a professional thing. You just film something with a femal costar but afterwards they become attached.

MJ: Yes it happens.

How do you break the news to them that you don't reciprocate?

MJ: When they see me running the other way. Yeah. Some of them follow me around the world and it's hard.

That probably makes them chase you even more because they probably are drawn to that boyish shyness. To be sure, many women like "bad" boys. But for the same reason, a lot like shy guys. In the same way the believe that they can redeem the bad boy and polish up this coarse diamond, they believe the same thing about the shy guy. They think, " Only I can bring him out of his shell." But I guess for a while with you running halfway around the world from them, they get the message. But you never tell them directly?

MJ: No, because it would hurt them too much.


Фльор, Лили, къде сте? Нещо се загубихте...

Мишинце златна си! Благодаря ти за концерта!  Hug

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 Славето ,ти ме уби с тази снимка,връщах се няколко пъти да я гледам еее немой да откъсна очи....   Flutter Flutter Crazy

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Момичета това е за Пловдив-премиерата http://cinemacity.bg/aktualnosci.php?nid=797

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Суперски неща пускате,благодаря ви!Огромни благодарности и за преводите!  bouquet
Аз нещо тези дни нямам какво да пиша.Днес чета сп.Браво и ревнах пак Confused,бяха хубаво го написали,нещо от рода на Бионсе наградена за това,лейди Гага за това ,Новолунието за еди какво си,но най-голямата звезда на музикалните награди не беше в залата!Майкъл Джексън...(цитирам по памет),в гърлото ми пак заседна буца,ама огромна  Cry.

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Мацките сега са на филма ,ох ...как искам и аз да го гледам ,ама не ми стиска да ревъъ в киносалона. Cry cry

премиерата на филма е след един месец Peace

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slaveto75, а онези лиготийки? Не мога да налучкам сайта....  Crossing Arms
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slaveto75,благодаря ти,направо се "загубих" в колекцията ти bouquet 

Аз тези три лиготийки случайно ги набарах,но благодарности на теб,че си открила сайт с такива красоти  bouquet

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Славе,това е истинско съкровище.
благодаря ти,че го сподели с нас Hug  bouquet Hug

Благодаря за милите думи!Трябвало е по-рано да се включа в този форум  smile3538Тук намирам спокойствие и утеха Hugна всички вас!

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Ааа, сега видях,че са ми изтрили поста с бабите Confused,сигурно снимката е била голяма ,пък хем я намалих Crossing Arms.Пак ще я пусна пък
 

много е готин Laughing

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Страшна горчилка ми остана в  гърлото от тоя откъс от книгата на Шмули. Много искам да го преведа, обаче е дълго, а нямам толкова време. Ако някой се навие да си го разделим

За мен тоя човечец Шмули е бил коварна душица още докато му е задавал въпросите, и в момента все едно го е съблякъл чисто гол и го развява като парцалена кукла пред цял свят. Така мазно го подвежда да му казва неща, които той никога не е имал намерение да каже пред цял свят. За мен тази книга е по-грозна от цялата помия на цялата преса през всичките тези години, защото папараците са си папараци, те с това си вадят хляба (не че ги оправдавам) и не са познавали Майкъл, за тях той е бил просто златна мина и той го е знаел и се е пазел. А Шмули го е познавал, подвеждал го е че му е приятел, и сега го е изтипосал с ясното съзнание, че ще предизвика страхотен интерес и ще стане и той известен за 15 минути, завалията, и с някой и друг долар по-богат.

Макар че Майкъл на практика нищо лошо не е казал, напротив! Възхитена съм и изобщо не съм изненадана, но ако е искал да разкаже всичко това на света, досега да го е направил сто пъти.

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 Peace Hugliliyyy МНОГО БЛАГОДАРЯ  bouquetИзобщо Б.Л.А.Г.О.Д.А.Р.Я.на всички  newsm20за  newsm51 newsm51съкровищата,които сте качили направо ми се завъртя главата [smilie=smile3501.gif]l [/b]много ме е срам да попитам  leidi 08Embarassed,но не разбрах аз имам ли билет?  newsm78

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Калин@,абсолютно съм съгласна с теб,не знам... докъде са способни да стигнат алчността,славолюбието и изобщо всички човешки мерзости?!...Май доста ще се понагледаме с времето!Сега се сещам-Г-н Шмули не е ли равин, и вкачеството на такъв ,не е ли недопустимо да излага на всеослушание подобна информация,та камоли да си позволява лични коментари newsm78

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Калин@,абсолютно съм съгласна с теб,не знам... докъде са способни да стигнат алчността,славолюбието и изобщо всички човешки мерзости?!...Май доста ще се понагледаме с времето!Сега се сещам-Г-н Шмули не е ли равин, и вкачеството на такъв ,не е ли недопустимо да излага на всеослушание подобна информация,та камоли да си позволява лични коментари newsm78

От коментарите ви си правя извода, че Шмули е втори Башир, но в религиозна дрешка  newsm78 и се числи към приятелите на Майкъл, което е още по-лошо  ooooh!

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Вълци в овчи кожи...май около Майкъл е гъмжало от такива!

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