Гей-парад 2013

Хомофоб е човек, който не е толерантен към определената група (до тук ясно). Вие се смятате за толерантен, но не сте в моите очи. И какво от това?

Който иска да си прави паради...свобода и избор....

Но съм категорично против осиновяването на деца от гей-двойки.И не защото било анти-природно,ами поради психологическото и социално възприятие на самото дете.....
И да ,и аз не харесвам холандското общество.....

Интересно ми е с какво се показах като нетолерантен.

Това са митове и легенди. Дай, ако обичаш, доказателствен материал. (Извори). Но не любовна поезия, а конкретни данни за хомосексуализъм в старогръцката армия. С име на автор и съчинение.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/children-of-samesex-couples-thriv … 130605-2nqjy.html

Ето, някои са наблюдавали и тези деца...и ги намират за супер.
А вие колко деца на гей-двойки сте виждали, че да знаете какви са им "психологическите и социални възприятия" ?

Информацията ми е дотолкова достоверна, доколкото виждаме какво се случва в Западна Европа и САЩ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfGhLf4W35k  Изгледайте частта за скандинавските държави !
Скоро ще разберете за какво точно се борим !
http://nsaprotiva.com/

Мога да обясня, но пак ви питам, какво значение има това за вас? Вие не ме познавате, а дори и да ме познавахте, не виждам как това е важно...

Интересно ми е с какво се показах като нетолерантен.

Интересно ми е с какво се показах като нетолерантен.

... Тази извратена демонстрация ...

Homosexual relationships seem to have been prevalent in ancient Greece. Some believe Achilles and Patroclus of Homer's Iliad were icons of male homosexuality. Aristotle stated that the Cretans encouraged homosexuality as a population controller on the island community in his Politics. {3}

Greek poets wrote of same-sex love and notable philosophers and writers such as Plato, Xenophon, Plutarch, and pseudo-Lucian discussed the topic. Plato is quoted as commenting:

Homosexuality is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments just as philosophy is regarded as shameful by them, because it is apparently not in the interest of such rulers to have great ideas engendered in their subjects, or powerful friendships or passionate love-all of which homosexuality is particularly apt to produce. {4}

Diogenes Laeurtius wrote of Alcibiades, the Athenian general and politician of the 5th century BC, "in his adolescence he drew away the husbands from their wives, and as a young man the wives from their husbands." {6}

Similarly, a character in Plutarch's Erotikos (Dialogue on Love) proclaims, "the noble lover of beauty engages in love wherever he sees excellence and splendid natural endowment without regard for any difference in physiological detail." {7}

Physicians casually commented that pleasure between men was more tiring. {8} Only a few examples of apparent same-sex exclusivity are known in ancient Greece, among which are Alexander the Great and Zeno of Citium, the founder of Stoicism.

The form of homosexuality that was most common in ancient Greece was pederasty, meaning a relationship between an adult man and a male youth. For the Greeks, pederasty was more than a sexual pastime or preference - it was nearly a social institution. A same-sex relationship between an older man, probably in his 20s or 30s, known as the erastes, and a beardless boy, the eromenos or paidika, became a cultural ideal. The relationship was regarded as mutually beneficial, as the older man would educate, protect, love, and provide a role model for his lover, while the eromenos offered his partner with beauty, youth, admiration, and love. {9}

Another common form of homosexuality in classical Greece originated in thesymposion, an aristocratic male drinking group. Guests reclined on couches in front of low tables laid with light snacks and a mildly alcoholic water-wine mixture.

The wine was poured by young male or female slaves, often chosen for their beauty. There were games, entertainments performed by the slaves, speeches, and conversations. The evening often ended with a drunken riot through the streets.

According to the Oxford Dictionary of the Classical World, the symposion was the main reason for the importance of homosexuality in ancient Greece, as it became the focus of expressions of love, sex, and liaisons both physical and spiritual.

Homosexual liaisons occurred both between drinkers and with slave boys, and the "idealization of these emotions inspired some of the highest expressions of love in European literature." {11}

Given that only free adult men had full social status, women and male slaves were not problematic sexual partners. Sex between freemen, however, was problematic for status. The central distinction in ancient Greek sexual relations was between taking an active or insertive role, versus a passive or penetrated one. The passive role was acceptable only for inferiors, such as women, slaves, or male youths who were not yet citizens. Terms for the passive role were muliebria pati, "to submit to what is done to women" and aselgainein, "to defile oneself." The active role in Greek was hubrizein, "to exert force upon another."

For these reasons, the pederasty described above became the ideal form of homosexual relationships. A free male youth was a more noble partner than a male slave (and perhaps more than a woman as well) because he could be from a noble family and would eventually become a free citizen.

But it also avoided homosexual sex between equals, which was problematic for reasons of status: if two adult citizens were to engage in homosexual activity, the one who played the passive role would lose respect. Women and slaves had no respect to worry about losing, and it appears that a male citzen who had been an eromenos in his youth lost no respect for it - in fact a history with a noble partner could be an honor - but he was expected to take the active role (whether with a women or a man) now that he had become an adult.

Важно е, защото писах за да спечеля хората, които пишат в този форум на моя страна и вместо да си говорят против парада вкъщи на ракийка, да излязат и да протестират против тази демонстрация ( моля не ме връщайте назад, за да не се налага да обяснявам за какво протестираме). Но вие, обявявайки ме за нетолерантен, хомофоб и малоумник с бръсната глава, отблъсквате хората, които имат сходни виждания с мен. Това е. Иначе, изобщо не ме интересува как ме определяте.

И още по темата за армията:

Ако хората, които имат сходни виждания с вас един пост ще ги накара да се откажат, те нямат сходни виждания с вас. По-скоро може би повече ракийка са пийнали.

Не знам дали ще ви се стори достоверно, но никога темата за гей парада не е била обсъждана вкъщи. С или без ракийка. Само силна омраза или много свободно време може да направи подобна разходка толкова важно събитие в нечий живот.