Историята с отвлечената Маделин

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'IF MADDIE IS DEAD SHE WILL TELL ME WHERE HER BODY IS'

KATE and Gerry McCann face the chilling prospect of Madeleine solving the mystery of her own disappearance if they involve a pyschic investigator.The man dubbed The Psychic Barber claims to have extraordinary powers, which have defied scientific testing.
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CASE HISTORY:

1) Three years ago, a family contacted Gordon after their son, in his late teens, went missing following his Christmas office drinks. They .....................

"Кейт и Гери МакКан са изправени пред зловещата перспектива Маделин сама да реши мистерията със своето изчезване, ако решат да включат медиум в разследването. Мъжът, наричан Медиумът бръснар, твърди, че притежава свръхестествени способности, неподлежащи на научни тестове.
Той вярва, че изчезналото 4-годишно дете може да предаде от гроба си новините, от които МакКан се ужасяват, с помощта на медиум.
Гордън, на 45 г., вече е работил над безброй случаи на изчезнали деца и очаква да помогне на МакКан - ако те помолят за помощта му.
Но, казва той, те трябва да са подготвени за най-лошото, защото той неизменно получава резултат, когато извършва сеанс с травмирани родители.
Гордън твърди, че общува с мъртвите - и ако Мади вече не е жива, тя би могла да проговори от отвъдния свят, за да им помогне да открият тялото й.
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История на случаи:
1. Преди 3 години семейство се свързва с Гордън след като техния син, в късните си тинейджърски години, изчезва след коледно празненство на офиса. Те търсели каквато и да е информация, която би могла да обясни изчезването му. Гордън казва: "Той беше изчезнал преди 2 месеца и семейството му дойде при мен. Той им казваше, че се е напил и се е подхлъзнал в реката Клайд в Ланаркшир, където умрял, опитвайки се да пресече бента. Казах, че ще открият тялото му следващия март - така и стана."

2. Понякога виденията му предизвикват тръпки с точността си. При сеанс с една американка Гордън и казал: "Той чува гръм и това е." По-късно се оказало, че баща й, адвокат с офис на няколко пресечки, е бил застрелян на бюрото си.

3. Преди няколко години Гордън е бил подложен на така наречения "сляп тест" от един скептичен журналист. Той включвал мъж в Австралия, който изчезнал след като отишъл на джогинг в 6 сутринта. Номерът бил да се опита да даде на съпругата му някаква информация - но тя била съсипана от резултата. Гордън казва: "Нищо не навеждаше на мисълта, че той е бил убит или мъртъв. Казах, че името му е Дейвид и че е паднал от някакви скали и е умрял. Беше истина и беше ужасно да си в такова положение."

4. В друг случай на изчезване, двойка британци се свързали с него, обяснявайки, че техен приятел бил в армията и е изчезнал. Търсили го 2 години, но не открили нищо. Но след като провели сеанс с Гордън, чрез неговия призив към отвъдния свят постигнали така необходимият пробив и те открили тялото."

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Ама, хора, наистина ли вярвате, че мъртвите "говорят"?!

И какво, ако той не получи "послание", значи детето е живо?
Ако тя му "проговори", значи е мъртва.
Егати перспективата - детето може да си е живо, а родителите да вярват, че е мъртво.Или обратното.

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Клонка  гледала сьм  в  много   предавания   как медиуми помагат  за откриването на  мъртви  хора..има  поредица   по Дискавъри  по късничко  е   даваха   една  жена  беше медиума   много   точно описа  къде е тялото  ..и по този начин  откриха  едно  момче  .Беше казала има река   и табела  на  хотел  ...бяха  прибегнали  до медиум тк  нямаха никакви  други следи  .
Разбира се по добре   е     вьобще да не се свьржи  с детето ..и то  да е  живо   нека  да има хепи енд и то  да бъде открито   Wink

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Тъй, значи сега ще чакаме какво ще каже медиумът.

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Блувелвет, може и да има медиуми, може и да "виждат" нещо, не отричам всичко, което не разбирам, но хич не вярвам в това, че мъртвите "говорят".
Та те са мъртви.

Ох, не знам.Такава мъка е загубата на дете, че просто не ми се мисли....
Тази история сериозно ме разтърси.
Сега и тоя медиум...направо...вече не зная.

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Нали уж казват че  тялото  умира  но душата продължава да  "живее" Rolling Eyes  Паранормалните явления   винаги  са ми били интересни... Всичко звучи много абсурдно    и непонятно   и   въпреки това   е  факт    че има  такива  хора с такива  способности.

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В какви медии ги четете тези чудесии, бе хора?  ooooh! Това кара цялата наша жълта преса да се продъни вдън земя от срам! И ние сме били имали жълти вестници, да, да...  Whistling
Наистина, крайно време е извънземните да кацнат.  Hug

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Как`Сийка   всеки ден    има  новини  покрай  Маделин  в всички онлайн  вестници   предполагам че испанските   са по пикантни но там нищичко не хващам и    чета английските  .Там  пишат не си играят   като  нашите .Ако   напишеш  лъжовна информация   като нищо  ще те  осъдят за някой  милион Wink не като нашите  Laughing

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Наистина, крайно време е извънземните да кацнат.  Hug hahaha hahaha

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'Let's Get Out There And Find Madeleine'

The McCann family spokesman has urged Portuguese police to "get back out there" and find Madeleine after a top cop was pulled off the investigation.
The McCanns and Mr Mitchel

Speaking after the dismissal of Portuguese police chief Gonçalo Amaral, Clarence Mitchell told Sky News the move should "refocus" and "re-energise" the hunt for the missing girl.

"We hope this will help to refocus the search for Madeleine," he said.

"Let's get back out there and we hope whoever takes over from Mr Amaral will re-energise the search for Madeleine."

Mr Mitchell denied claims from Portuguese police that he was running a campaign to discredit them.

"It's ridiculous to suggest we are running some kind of strategy like that," he said.

"There is no strategy. We are not running anything with Leicestershire Police.

Последна редакция: чт, 04 окт 2007, 10:42 от bluevelvet

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GET SARAH COP TO FIND MADDIE


A BRITISH “super cop” was last night set to be brought in to crack the Madeleine McCann case.

Top of the list is Det Supt Alan Ladley, 51, who nailed monster Roy Whiting for the abduction and murder of seven-year-old Sarah Payne.

A police source revealed: “They want a successful copper and he could be just the man.”

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http://www.variety.com/vstory/VR1117973249.html?categoryId=38&cs=1
Това е статия   за премиерата  на   филма 'Gone Baby Gone'

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Момичета, има ли новини за Маделин?

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'The Locator' gives fresh hope to the McCanns
I traced Maddie DNA to the sea


A RENOWNED international manhunt expert, dubbed The Locator, sensationally revealed he has uncovered a telltale DNA trail left by snatched toddler Maddie McCann.

In a shock new twist, ex-cop Danie Krugel tracked a "forensic route" he believed her kidnapper took from her family's Portuguese holiday apartment through alleyways, roads and paths down to a nearby beach.

There the trail goes cold—crucially supporting the theory that Madeleine was then taken out to sea in a boat after being abducted on May 3.

And the McCanns are convinced Krugel's evidence means four-year-old Maddie was taken ALIVE and gives them hope she can still be found.

The experienced investigator told us: "I spent four nights in July carrying out my searches.

"I've been able to trace where Madeleine was in the resort and have drawn a map which has been given to the police.

"I can't reveal details as I don't want to alert anyone who might try to disturb the scene. But I believe I've traced where she was taken that night and now it's down to police to use their search experts to do the rest. The area to which my investigation led me is a difficult one to search."

"We tried to contact the family at the very beginning to offer our help, but unfortunately we didn't get called in until a couple of months after Madeleine went missing."
Desperate

News of Krugel's findings came as the News of the World discovered that forensic tests on DNA found in the apartment and hire car are "inconclusive"—completely refuting Portuguese police claims that they incriminate to Maddie's distraught parents, still branded official suspects.

In their desperate bid to find Madeleine the McCanns called in South African Krugel after hearing of a string of remarkable successes in his homeland, where he earned his nickname The Locator.

Krugel's hi-tech methods are a closely guarded secret and he refuses to give details of his techniques.

But his method uses DNA fragments and Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite technology to find missing persons, alive and dead.

The McCanns gave him a sample of Maddie's hair found on a coat that had been left at home in Rothley, Leicestershire, to carry out his probe, with the full cooperation of the cops in Praia da Luz.

Krugel's starting point was the ground floor apartment in the Mark Warner complex where she vanished, just a short distance away from the tapas bar where Kate and Gerry were dining with seven friends.

Using his secret techniques Krugel began tracing and following a DNA trail on a 15-minute route to the sea.

Portuguese cops were then called in to examine his dossier of evidence and immediately decided to carry out searches based on the information. A source told us: "In fact TWO searches were carried out although this has never been revealed.

"The police were worried that media in the area would see them but they managed to do it all without anyone finding out.

"They didn't find any trace of Made-leine but this did not mean Mr Krugel's information wasn't accurate. The investigations show the only option was for Made-leine to have been put on a boat and taken out to sea."

After police made inquiries around the nearby Lagos marina and other local boating communities there emerged the two theories that Madeleine's body was dumped at sea or she is still alive having been taken by boat abroad, possibly to Morocco.

Krugel's results also match a crucial eye-witness account on the evening of May 3 by Kate and Gerry's close friend Jane Tanner.

She said she saw a man carrying what appeared to be a child wrapped in a blanket close to their apartment.

In a witness statement to cops Miss Tanner said the child looked similar to Madeleine. The man has never been traced. Ironically for the McCanns, it was the work of Krugel that resulted in sniffer dogs being brought in and the couple being declared suspects.

Our source said: "It was suggested to the Portuguese police that after they'd searched the beach they should then use the dogs from Britain. And it was the behaviour of the dogs that caused them to believe they'd found this so-called ‘scent of death'.

"This in fact may not have been the case but the police became convinced Kate and Gerry were involved.

"They are ignoring all the statements to the contrary, the DNA evidence said to have been found in the hire car which can be easily explained, and also the work of Mr Krugel who has had many successes."

"The Locator" traced victims of infamous South African paedophile Gert van Rooyan in the late 1980s. Six girls, aged 11 to 13, had vanished and police were baffled.

Using hair from the missing girls he repeatedly pinpointed the same spot and when the area was excavated bone fragments of victims was found.

He also traced the body of missing five-year-old girl, Naledi Ntebele, in just 20 minutes.



The News of the World has learned Kate and Gerry could finally be cleared after new forensic tests carried out in the UK have proved "inconclusive".

DNA testing by the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham on samples of body fluids and blood have NOT provided a positive match to Madeleine.

An FSS source said that further "more complicated" tests were being carried out and denied claims they were holding back information from the Portuguese. Earlier British experts accused the Portuguese of overplaying early DNA evidence to put pressure on the McCanns.

In the days that followed it was alleged that Portuguese police had found fluids and hair from Madeleine in the hire car.

Leaked reports claimed bodily fluids and blonde hairs apparently belonging to Maddie had been found in the Renault, leading to speculation that they used the car to move her corpse weeks later.
Proven

But a source close to the forensic inquiry insisted yestereday: "The testing carried out so far remains inconclusive. There are no complete DNA profiles that could implicate the McCanns.

"Tests are still underway and if they come to the same conclusion the case against the McCanns will collapse."

As the argument raged, investigator Krugel told us he had asked for no money or even expenses for his work on the case. "I wanted to assist the McCanns and offered my services," he said.

"We tried to contact the family at the very beginning but unfortunately we didn't get called in until months after Madeleine went missing."

A source close to the McCanns said: "The work of Mr Krugel should not be underestimated and gives great hope to Gerry and Kate.

"Many people have contacted the couple to try to help but while their hearts may be in the right place they just don't have the expertise to be of assistance. But Mr Krugel has a proven record of finding people and his methods are extremely credible.

"The results in Praia da Luz crucially match many other strands of the investigation which all point to Madeleine being abducted and still being alive on that night when she was taken.

"Kate and Gerry just want police to concentrate on this evidence and find Madeleine. It's so frustrating for them.

"It is important to mention Kate and Gerry used Mr Krugel with the full cooperation of Portuguese police. The fact they carried out searches as a result of his work prove his credibility with them.

"Yet sadly they seem to have decided to no longer follow this line of inquiry."

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I KNOW WHERE MADDY BODY IS
EXCLUSIVE THE SEARCH FOR MADELEINE DAY 157 Expert pin-points spot on Algarve beach He accuses
police of ignoring his report
By Nick Owens Nick.Owens@Sundaymirror.Co.Uk 07/10/2007

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Desperate Kate and Gerry McCann have hired a professional "bodyfinder" who says he has pin-pointed the exact spot where their daughter Madeleine is buried.

Scientist and former South African police colonel Danie Krugel secretly flew out to Portugal to meet the couple before spending a week tracking the four-year-old's DNA trail.

Using cutting-edge technology, Krugel led Portuguese police to an area of beach 500 yards from where she vanished.

Detectives took his finding so seriously that they sealed off the entire area.

But in what could turn out to be yet another astonishing bungle, Portuguese police never bothered to dig at the spot.

Now, as sacked police chief Goncalo Amaral is off the inquiry and a new officer, Carlos do Carmo - dubbed "Portugal's Robocop" - takes over, Krugel is heading back to reinvestigate.

A source close to the McCanns said last night: "Kate and Gerry are pleased he's returning. They worked with him before and want to see his leads investigated."

The former South African detective has an amazing 90 per cent success rate in tracing missing people.

Speaking exclusively to the Sunday Mirror, he said last night: "I'm preparing to fly to Portugal again because the investigation seems to have come to a halt.

"I'm convinced Madeleine's body is in Praia Da Luz."

The McCanns turned to him in July to spend a week investigating Madeleine's disappearance after being deluged with emails from members of the public recommending him as a "genius".

He said: "Gerry sent me a strand of Madeleine's hair for DNA purposes, which had been removed from her coat."

Krugel became a household name in South Africa when he created a DNA tracking device which solved a 19-year mystery about the whereabouts of six schoolgirls snatched by a paedophile.

He told last night how he used the same method to track a potential burial spot for Madeleine on the beach in Praia da Luz.

The area was sealed off and Krugel suggested sniffer dogs be brought in to further pinpoint the spot where they needed to dig. Yet ironically, when the dogs arrived they were used by cops to turn the finger of suspicion on to Gerry and Kate.

Portuguese police were more excited about the dogs' reaction when they searched the McCanns' Ocean Club apartment and hire car.

It means the area on the beach has still not been searched properly by officers and no dig has ever taken place.

And it came amid new reports from Portuguese newspaper Correio yesterday claiming police believe Madeleine was buried on the beach in Praia da Luz soon after her death.

Krugel added: "After I conducted my investigation I gave the police a map pinpointing the spot I think Madeleine is. And I handed over a 2,000 word report on what they should do next.

"I said sniffer dogs should be brought in to start the search. But I warned that this alone was not enough as dogs are only a success in missing person hunts three out of four times.

"That is why I also suggested a fingertip search of the area and a dig of the spot I located. But if this has not been done, the police really need to start from scratch and investigate that area again."

He added: "Too much time has been wasted accusing Kate and Gerry and not enough has been spent searching for Madeleine and following up on leads."

Krugel's device apparently combines quantum physics and global positioning technology to pin-point a body on a map.

His invention has already helped solve the riddle of a man reported missing by his family.

South African cops had no clue where he was - until Krugel was called in.

He used his DNA expertise to track down the body to a hospital mortuary where he had lain unidentified for days after being knocked down by a car.

Krugel claims his invention works much like a metal detector but tracks minute DNA traces rather than metal.

Krugel landed in Praia da Luz with his machine on July 17 and embarked on a four day search - with the blessing of Portuguese detectives. He said: "I had a meeting with Kate and Gerry where I explained exactly how my technology works and what I was going to do.

"They knew a lot about my work already because people had posted messages about me on the Find Madeleine website.

"The police were fully aware of the work I was about to do.

"I set off with some colleagues and we conducted an extensive search of Praia da Luz using the machine.

"I scoured many different places across the resort and spent time near ports and other exit points in Praia da Luz.

"We spent 16 hours a day searching everywhere - nothing was left unsearched."

Under Portuguese law Krugel is forbidden from revealing the exact spot as he has mentioned it in a police statement. But sources close to the investigation told the Sunday Mirror that it is a spot on the beach in Praia da Luz near where Gerry regularly went running.

Krugel said: "The technology I use picks up a trace using DNA and complex and secret science techniques. Every day the trace was strongest in this one area.

"The machine was highlighting the same co-ordinate and it kept drawing me back there. It left me convinced that Madeleine was there.

"My machine has a 90 per cent success rate, so I am convinced this is the place where Madeleine is buried."

Krugel added: "The Portuguese police took my findings seriously at first, but now the work seems to have stopped. In the short time I have had with Kate and Gerry it is clear they are really concerned that the search for Madeleine is getting put to one side because of rumour and speculation. To them, all that matters is that the search for their daughter should go on day and night."

Krugel's DNA-tracking machine was first featured on South African TV. Respected news programme Carte Blanche introduced Krugel's invention last year showing how it helped recover the remains of six children killed by a paedophile in the late-1980s.

The police knew they had been abducted and murdered by paedophile Gert van Rooyen and his female accomplice Joye Haarhoff.

But where the pair had buried the children was one of the biggest criminal mysteries in South African history - until Krugel was called in.

He used his machine to track down an area near to Van Rooyen's home and in a dig of the area he pinpointed human remains which were found buried deep underground.

The programme claimed that DNA evidence recovered from the skeletons found in the dig proved the bones were those of the missing children. Krugel - head of health and safety at the Central University of Technology in the Free State - is regularly drafted into help in missing children enquiries by South African Police.

The McCanns' decision to fly Krugel to Praia da Luz is one of many steps they have taken to conduct their own search for Madeleine, missing now for 157 days.

As "arguidos" - suspects - Kate and Gerry retain the right to request that certain investigations are carried out.

Krugel said: "Kate and Gerry are right to try anything at all to find their daughter.

"You can't just rely on the police and they have done all they can to think of other ways of looking for Madeleine.

"I have told them I am ready to return to Praia da Luz or wherever they need my help.

"All that matters is to keep searching and to keep trying to find this little girl."
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