Ваксините:ПолЗата или Вредата от тях?-продължение

Понеже Инето питаше за умното слагане на ваксините, ще дам един пример от днес.
Сина ми се разболя от скарлатина в четвъртък. Пие антибиотик, всичко върви на оздравяване, даже му разреши от утре да ходи отново на градина. Но днес трябваше да му сложи втората игла за ФСМЕ и го отложихме за след 3 седмици. Ако тогава всичко е наред - изследване на урина, ЕКГ и няма друго заболяване, ще му я сложат

Браво,нека да му я сложат.   Да не zабравиШ и на себе си да сложиШ,ако не си си сложила оЩе.

Не ти е на място иронията. Желанието ми да си сложим тази ваксина е да се предпазим от това заболяване, при положение, че отиваме на почивка в ендемичен район и колкото и да ми се иска, едва ли ще увардя хлапетата си да не ги клъвне кърлеж.
Като професионалист би трябвало да знаеш последствията от този енцефалит, нали?

"Като професионалист би трябвало да знаеш последствията от този енцефалит, нали?"...

->>Дааа... Той професионалист ли е обаче в областта на педиатрията? Едва ли, ако се съди по съдържанието на постингите му...

Ти като неспециалист може би си наясно колко кьрлежа и кьде са носители на ФСМЕ и какьв е процентния риск zа zараzа.А сьм сигурен,4е си zапоzната и с ваксината и всичките й последствия,и вьпреки това си подлагаШ децата на нея.Твое право.

Бьрди,ти колко пьти си слагал такава ваксина....кьде ти е професионалиzма тук конкретно...?
ФСМЕ не се слага само на деца,4и4ко педиатьр.

Ето откъде се информирах - http://www.medizinfo.de/waldundwiese/fsme/aktivimmunisierung.htm
Мисля, че разбираш тоз людски език

http://www.impfkritik.de/fsme/index.php
Ето виж тук.Забележи най долу кои са иzточниците.

А това е форум на хора с фсме и последствия...Има и zа деца...http://www.findefux.de/forum/read.php4?admview=1&f=70&i=93&t=43


ПП Много интересни и хубави имена имат децата ти...чак сега ги прочетох.

В момента в Германия има голяма епидемия на морбили...

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2025964,00.html

Christian,

за твое най-голямо съжаление, само 2.5% от болните са били ваксинирани ( и то само с една доза ваксина, вместо две) останалите 97.5% от болните са деца, които не са били ваксинирани. Има доста деца в критично състояние.... и ми е жалко за тях, както и за родителите им.

За скарлатина няма ваксина,ама явно и това не zнаете...Скарлатината може да се иzкара 100 пьти в живота.Нейното прекарване не дава имунитет.
На линка става дума zа морбили MASERN,a ne Scharlach Скарлатина.

А то4но таzи ваксина е в световните дебати zа врьzката с аутиzьм.Ама моите деца няма да я полу4ат,така 4е малко ве4е ме вьлнува...Да му мислят теzи,които са си боли доброволно децата.

Дебати? Световни? Май само в твоята глава се "дебатира".
Останалата част от изказването ти е цинично и  нагло (както (почти)винаги).

Човеко Бьрди,колко "световни"линка искаШ оЩе да ти сложа?...
Аz няма какво да дебатирам,моите деца не са ваксинирани и не влиzат в таzи графа...Какво имам да се тревожа и да дебатирам?Другите да му мислят...нека е цинично,такова си просите,такова получавате.

Кристиян, колкото и линкове да сложиш Бърди винаги ще отрича, че има връзка между аутизма и MMR ваксината. Така че май е безмислено да се опитваме да убеждаваме него, по-важното е родителите на децата да осмислят тази информация.
Ето един линк за тези, които не знаят английски, но се справят с руския:
http://www.homeoint.org/kotok/vaccines/diseases.htm
И тъй като знам мнението на Бърди за "руската школа", ще добавя, че статиите не са на руски автори, а само са преведени на руски

Цветулке, Кристиян в случая е прав. Става дума наистина за морбили. Сина ми в момента го лекувам от скарлатина, а тя се предизвиква от стрептококи и се лекува с най-простия антибиотик - Пеницилин.

FROM :  AUTISMconnectThe Dots.
   
  Please reveiw the following post from the United States Environmental Protection Agency and consider the following.  Every thimerosal containing vaccine which was administered during the 1990's (a large number of the total mandatory vaccine protocol) contained levels of mercury which were hundreds of times more toxic than hazardous waste according to the EPA's own website. 
   
  [Mercury containing vaccines have been banned in some states in the US but they very much continue in India and other third world countries, the captive market of the vaccine manufacturers who see this as a huge "safe" market as no lawsuits are filed. Vaccine damage is simply ignored in these countries. Both the governments and the press in these countries keep their eyes wide open but their mouths properly shut for reasons best known to them. Perhaps the governments do not want lawsuits, and "unnecessary" compensation payments and the press does not like to loose out on the lucrative vaccine advertisement revenue.]
 
http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/mercury/regs.htm#hazwaste
   
  This is a federal law that applies to all states

"If mercury levels in a waste exceed the Toxicity Characteristic Leach
Test (TCLP) level of 0.2 mg/L for mercury, then the waste is identified
as a hazardous waste based on the toxicity characteristic".

Note that most vaccines administered during the 1990's to infants (all children younger than two were subject to the mandatory vaccine schedule) contained levels of thimerosal consistent with those solutions being hundreds of times more toxic than hazardous waste according to the above set-forth EPA webiste.  Presently, flu vaccine contains 50 mg/l of mercury from the thimerosal preservative.  The concentration of mercury in the flu vaccine (containing thimerosal) being recommended to babies and pregnant women is  250 Times more toxic than the above level the EPA considers to be hazardous waste. 
   

  Yes, it certainly looks like they poisoned a generation of children, according to relevant information available from the EPA.  Against the above backdrop, please consider the following articles: 
   
  The first is an article by Dan Olmsted of United Press International entitled "A Big Secret".

This article, which can be accessed from the url below (please copy and paste into webbrowser if the website won't open upon double clicking), points to the fact that of a rather large population of children (somewhere north of 35,000-probably greatly in excess of 100,000) all of whom were unvaccinated-
   
  Not a single child was autistic, had asthma or diabetes!!!! 
   
  This was absolutely astounding, given that each of these conditions is an epidemic in our nation's children.

In any event, further research into this issue eventually turned up information about the government's mandatory vaccine program, which all children must abide by in order to attend school.  As we began to understand the possible damage to our nation's children which was apparently done by the mandatory vaccine policy, we were quite disturbed.  Numerous parents contend that the mandated program forced them to damage their children.  The following websites are a small portion of the articles we reviewed. They provide a current understanding of autism/autoimmune disease, which is epidemic in our children and the history and related issues of this apparent tremendous self-induced tragedy.   
   
  Yet the mainstream media and traditional medical institutions will not deal with this issue forthrightly.  They appear to be covering up this historical scandal. Perhaps you will see why below. 
   
        Please review all of the articles listed below.  In doing so, you may need to copy and paste the url's into the webbrowser.  If they don't open upon clicking with your mouse, copy and paste the website address (url) into your webbrowser. You may find this information compelling. 
         
  Please review all articles.  They will give you a fine historical understanding of this issue and how it has been handled since close to the autism epidemic inception.  But there is a crisis of autoimmune diseases in our children and this should also be ackowledged. 
 
After you go through the first article by Dan Olmsted, review the other pieces, many of which you may already by aware. They place the autism/ADD/asthma/allergies/learning disabilities debate in historical context.  They may also provide you with information about why many of your kids appear out of control, unruly and just plain difficult to deal with.   
   
  Remember-  you may need to copy and paste url into webbrowser to view article. 
 
washingtontimes.com/upi/20051204-060313-6829r.htm  No autism, asthma or diabetes in unvaccinated!!!!!!!

http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/vaccine-profit.html  You may want to read this summary first!!!!!!
   
  http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/06/16/thimerosal/index.html?pn=1
   
  http://www.whale.to/vaccines/krasner6.html   What were they thinking???
   
  http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n8_v9/ai_13506863 

   
  www.hendersonvillestarnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200602 … /NEWS02/602090405
   
    http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/

   
  http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/ad.060406.pdf
   
  http://www.autismspeaks.org/sponsoredevents/autism_every_day.php
   
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/time-for-cdc-t … clea_b_16550.html
   
  http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/home4.pdf
               
  http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_060418_autism___worst_welfa.htm
   


  http://www.taap.info/epidemic.asp  (use internet explorer for this site) Note explosive increase autism since 1992
   
  http://www.universityofhealth.net/NAS/NAS%20Roster.htm
   use internet explorer for this site
 
http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/vaccines/wake.html  Much more than just autism!!!!
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi/20060213-020858-7120r.htm effects on our future!!!!!
   
  http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi/20060321-104858-2346r.htm  Allergies as well
   
       
  http://www.evidenceofharm.com/
   
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00386.htm
   
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0512/S00258.htm
   

  http://www.downtoearth.org.in/full6.asp?foldername=20060415& … ec_id=7&sid=1
   
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/a-poisonous-mo … kids_b_16899.html
   
   
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/time-for-cdc-t … clea_b_16550.html
   

   
  http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-11-14/34581.html  some flu shots 250 times more toxic than hazardous waste!!!!!
     

  http://govhealthit.com/article91816-12-23-05-Web&RSS=yes

   
  www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5196751 
   
  Why would the government target to cut out an infinitesimal part ($50 million) of a $2.6 trillion budget- to study autoimmunity/disease in children?
 
http://www.grcjr.blogspot.com  tragicallly, the mainstream media doesn't deal with this issue forthrightly-  Why?

 
http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/pre1995pres/930401a.txt
 

  http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/vdnoshotsnoschoolnokids3dec0.shtml

http://www.aapsonline.org/press/nrhillary.htm

http://www.aapsonline.org/newsletters/jan96.htm
   
  http://sites.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/nov/19/vaccine_mandate_opposition.htm
   
  http://www.townhall.com/print/print_story.php?sid=167571&loc … 11/08/167571.html
   
  http://www.cnri.edu/drwilson/imva-paper-09-01-04.htm

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/August2001/NatElecVaxTrack.htm

http://www.aapsonline.org/testimony/cdc02.htm

http://www.aapsonline.org/testimony/shal02.htm

http:/www.vaccineinfo.net/issues/tracking/nationalregistry/freecongress.shtml
 

    www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-2-27/38658.html  Parents being sent into bankruptcy by their having to treat their children after mandatory vaccinations

   
  http://www.a-champ.org/documents/geier%20Early%20Downward%20Tren … JAPS%203-1-06.pdf
   
      Shows declining neurological developmental impairment with elimination of thimerosal containing vaccines!!!!!!
   
  http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi/20060302-111157-7494r.htm
   
  http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
   
  http://www.healthsentinel.com/org_news.php?id=082&title=Stud … s_print_list_item
   
  http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060321-042435-6981r
   
  Thimerosal causes dentritic damage
   
  http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2006/8881/abstract.html
   
  www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040204.shtml  Shows how pediatricians can bully patients
   

Я виж ти кой кого спонсорирал...

AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS
http://www.cspinet.org/integrity/corp_funding.html
"Friends of Children Fund" Annual Report, July 1, 1996 - June 30, 1997,
indicates $2.085 million in funding from corporations. Donors include
Procter & Gamble, Gerber, Infant Formula Council, McNeil Consumer Products
Company, National Cattlemenâ?™s Beef Association, Johnson & Johnson
Consumer Products, Abbott Laboratories, Wyeth-Lederle Vaccine & Pediatrics,
Mead Johnson Nutritionals, SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals, Schering
Corp., Rhone-Poulenc Rorer, Food Marketing Institute, Sugar Association,
International Food Information Council, Merck Vaccine Division, and others.
Also gets foundation support (RWJ, Pew, etc.).
        Formula manufacturers "donate $1 million annually to the American
Academy of Pediatrics in the form of a renewable grant that has already
netted the AAP $8 million. The formula industry also contributed at least
$3 million toward the building costs of the AAP headquarters." (Mothering
magazine, July-August, p.60; refers to a book Milk, Money and Madness by
Naomi Baumslag and Dia L. Michels (Westport, Conn.: Bergin and Garvey,
1995, p. 172))

"We suspect financial ties between vaccine manufacturers and medical groups
such as the American Medical Association and American Academy of Pediatrics
(AAP) which endorse the (hep B) vaccine," says Dr. Orient, pointing to a
substantial donation to AAP from Merck & Co. "And the federal government
pays the state a bonus up to $100 for every "fully" vaccinated child.
Whatâ?™s their motive -- money or medicine?"      Jane Orient M.D.

"I have copies of letters to the AAP from three vaccine manufacturers
discussing the almost $1 million they donated to the AAP during a five-year
period alone!"--Sandy Mintz

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